free html hit counter Tweets Belong To The User....And Words Are Complicated | John Battelle's Search Blog

Tweets Belong To The User….And Words Are Complicated

By - September 06, 2012

(image GigaOm) Like many of you, I’ve been fascinated by the ongoing drama around Twitter over the past few months (and I’ve commented on part of it here, if you missed it). But to me, one of the most interesting aspects of Twitter’s evolution has gone mostly unnoticed: its ongoing legal battle with a Manhattan court over the legal status of tweets posted by an Occupy Wall St. protestor.

In this case, the State of New York is arguing that a tweet, once uttered, becomes essentially a public statement, stripped of any protections. The judge in the case concurs: In this Wired coverage, for example, he is quoted as writing “If you post a tweet, just like if you scream it out the window, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.”

Twitter disagrees, based on its own Terms of Service, which state “what’s yours is yours – you own your Content.”

As the NYT puts it:

Twitter informed the (Occupy protestor) that the judge had ruled his words no longer belonged to him: (he) had turned them over to Twitter, in other words, to be spread across the world.

(Twitter’s) legal team appealed on Monday of last week. Tweets belong to the user, the company argued.

I find this line of argument compelling. Twitter is arguing that its users do not “turn over” their words to Twitter, instead, they license their utterances to the service, but retain rights of ownership, those rights remain with the person who tweets. It’s a classic digital argument – sure, my words are out there on Twitter, but those are a licensed  copy of my words. The words – the ineffable words –  are still *mine.*  I still have rights to them! One of those rights may well be privacy (interesting given Twitter’s public nature, but arguable), but I can imagine this builds a case for other ownership rights as well, such as the right to repurpose those words in other contexts.

If that is indeed the case, I can imagine a time in the not too distant future when people may want to extract some or all their tweets, and perhaps license them to others as well. Or, they may want to use a meta-service (there’s that idea again) which allows them to mix and mash their tweets in various ways, and into any number of different containers. Imagine for a minute that one of those meta services gets Very Big, and challenges Twitter on its own turf. Should that occur, well, the arguments made in this Manhattan case may well come into very sharp focus. And it’s just those kind of services that are nervous about where Twitter is going.

Just noodling it out. I may be missing some key legal concept here, but this strikes me as a potentially important precedent. I plan to speak with folks at Twitter about all this soon, and hopefully, I’ll have some clarity. Stay tuned.

Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...
  • Maria Dorfner

    Interesting. Take a look at my most recent post.

    • johnbattelle

      Give us a URL!

      • Maria Dorfner

        Your blog posted a second after I learned the CIA made an arrest based on a tweet. Messaged you details on FB in case it prompts questions for your interview.

  • bob

    If tweets belong to the user, can the user then authorize their presentation in a form that does not meet the new Twitter API rules?

    • johnbattelle

      A fine question….

    • http://twitter.com/perryevans perryevans

      agree that this feels like the BIG question. I presume that a large part of Twitter’s offensive posture on client app is to close off the “entry point” from becoming a point of alternate distribution. When you own the point of content entry, it’s a LOT more complicated to invoke re-distribution.

      • johnbattelle

        Arguing for the heck of it, but…how would Twitter know if I am using a client that passes my tweets to Twitter, but also does other things with it, like passing those same words (not the tweet, but the words) to other applications?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1100427829 facebook-1100427829

    Sounds like Twitter may have been influenced by the policy at The Well. The policy there is “You own your own words”, or YOYOW for short.

    • johnbattelle

      Yes I was a member of the WELL in the late 80s. I loved that policy and it was very deeply considered.

  • http://twitter.com/SoMeDellLawyer Ryan M Garcia

    You’re confusing Twitter’s two arguments as a single issue. One deals with ownership because Twitter would rather nit be involved in the fight–that’s where the license versus ownership comes in. The other deals with if the tweets should be turned over–that’s the reasonable expectation of privacy issue.

    • johnbattelle

      Appreciate the clarification, but it seems Twitter is also conflating the two, no?

      • http://twitter.com/SoMeDellLawyer Ryan M Garcia

        Not really. Their brief has two main points (plus some facts and a minor third argument). The first argument is about the original author (Harris) should have standing in the court to fight the subpoena. The lower court had held Harris had no right to do so, Twitter brings up the ownership issue from its terms as a response. If Twitter wins this argument it just means Harris gets to make his own arguments rather than Twitter. The privacy issue is separate–it’s about whether the tweets should be turned over no matter who makes the argument.

        • johnbattelle

          Thanks for that. In any case, the implication of “owning your own tweets” stands no?

  • Pingback: What is a tweet?

  • Colin Walker

    John,

    As I posted on my blog, there must be a distinction made between the content and its associated tweet.

    The ToS is clear on the user owning the content but Twitter HAS to own the Tweet. I think this is the only way they can reconcile the user ownership of content with the ability to enforce tweet display rules via the API.

    The content isn’t a tweet on its own – it’s just words, the tweet is created by the service when the standard format is applied to the user content. The tweet is the combination of content + presentation + functionality + metadata such as conversation information.

    http://colinwalker.me.uk/2012/09/what-is-a-tweet/

    • johnbattelle

      I agree that what you argue makes sense, but the Terms are not crystal clear on this. They say “you own your own Content”….and it’s pretty easy to conflate Content with Tweets. However, it’s clear that can’t be the case.

  • Pingback: Reading about eReading this week 9/10/2012 « Allegany County Library System Director's Notes

  • Pingback: Twitter’s dilemma: We own our tweets, but it still wants to control them — Tech News and Analysis

  • Pingback: Twitter’s dilemma: We own our tweets, but it still wants to control them « MediaStreet News & Opinions

  • Pingback: RW Goldberg | Social Media Marketing Expert : What is a tweet?