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Search, Plus Your World, As Long As It’s Our World

By - January 10, 2012

Perusing my feeds today, I saw this post from Google’s blog:

Search, plus Your World

In the post, Google extols the virtues of incorporating results such as “your personal content or things shared with you by people you care about. These wonderful people and this rich personal content is currently missing from your search experience. Search is still limited to a universe of webpages created publicly, mostly by people you’ve never met. Today, we’re changing that by bringing your world, rich with people and information, into search.”

OH MY GOD! thinks I. GOOGLE IS FINALLY WORKING WITH FACEBOOK!

Nah, just kidding. What’s really going on is that Google is fully incorporating Google+ into its index. It’s as if Facebook doesn’t exist.

Now, I’ve been on this one before, and I’m sure others will point it out, or simply roll their eyes and call it a dead issue. Dead because we all know that Google hasn’t made peace with Facebook, and therefore is not crawling Facebook data, nor integrating Facebook results into its core search product in any other way than what’s absolutely necessary (ie those lame public Facebook profile pages). Facebook, in turn, has not made most of what happens inside Facebook available to search engines. It’s a standoff, because neither company really knows how to value the other company’s partnership.

And it sucks for the web. The unwillingness of Facebook and Google to share a public commons when it comes to the intersection of search and social is corrosive to the connective tissue of our shared culture. But as with all things Internet, we’ll just identify the damage and route around it. It’s just too bad we have to do that, and in the long run, it’s bad for Facebook, bad for Google, and bad for all of us. (BTW, Google also doesn’t show Twitter or Flickr results either, or any other “social” service. Just its own, Google+ and Picasa.)

Google addresses this issue in a SEL piece today:  “Facebook and Twitter and other services, basically, their terms of service don’t allow us to crawl them deeply and store things. Google+ is the only [network] that provides such a persistent service,” (said Google exec Amit) Singhal. “Of course, going forward, if others were willing to change, we’d look at designing things to see how it would work.”

Er, something tells me hell will freeze over first. Google’s already failed to get a data deal done with both Twitter and Facebook. I doubt they’ll take another run at it soon, though I wish they would.

Instead, we have the deepening trend of each of the Internet Big Five trying to be All Things to All People, creating a World That If Only You’d Use Exclusively, You’d Never Have To Leave.

Ick. Remember when Google used to be a neutral player that crawled the Whole Dern Web? So sad to see that era pass. It’s not Google’s fault, entirely, but it’s sad nonetheless.

NB: I should add that I am fully aware that the integration of G+, and *only* G+, into Google’s search service is a major win for Google’s fledgling social service. I’d expect a big bump in usage due to this, if the integration is done well (ie, doesn’t irritate users). It’s clearly “tying” in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case in the late 90s, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one. If Microsoft really wanted to mess with Google, it could shut down Bing. Then Google might have some problems on its hands. Stranger things….

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188 thoughts on “Search, Plus Your World, As Long As It’s Our World

  1. [...] linked to a blog post by John Battelle (who wrote the book “The Search” about Google) that said, “Ick. [...]

  2. Jeff Wolfers says:

    Well if T and FB would open up, G wouldn’t need to make this move. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Point taken. But neither can just allow anyone to digest their full feed at real time speeds. It’s expensive to service and does have value, which is what no one can seem to agree upon.

      • perryevans says:

        So, Google should politely wait on the sidelines until the “content sources” come around to support their desires?  Pfft.  Google did what any aggressive company with a competitive backbone did, it refused to be held hostage. 

        They didn’t exclude anyone, everyone excluded themselves. 

        Not saying there isn’t a threat of antitrust, but the alternative of being timid in execution of their own long-stated intentions in personalized search and integration of social had to be totally unpalatable. 

        • Anonymous says:

          I get your point Perry, I think the devil is in the details of negotiations that have now passed ….

          • Justin Hedge says:

            I agree with the devil most likely being in the details; certainly there must exist potential for a mutually beneficial relationship.

          • Anonymous says:

            It’s all about risk. I’m writing a post about it now.

          • perryevans says:

            This feels like just another move in a complex high stakes game.  It had to happen, I think. Nobody knows how relative value equation will shake out.  Surely there is “a formula” to be worked out.  

            Best way to realign the match is to demonstrate your power.  Google exercised its muscle, and reset the dialog.   

            What remains annoying to me is that  it’s not “Twitter’s content” or “Facebook’s content” Google is after, it’s ours.  

          • Anonymous says:

            Good point Perry. Part of what I conclude in the next post I’ve written, see the top of the site!

          • Anonymous says:

            It’s all about risk. I’m writing a post about it now.

        • tomhermans says:

          I agree. If others wall their eco-system to try to keep web users locked in, what does Google have to do ? Break in ?

          The web should be open, and not only for Google’s success, but to have accessible, online content of everything..

          • Anonymous says:

            Um, no… Google doesn’t need to break in, Google should pay for the access. If it’s not worth it to Google, then they don’t get in. Google is the great internet data suck hole. They make their money off your data that you give to them free of charge for using their “free” products… that’s your choice. Facebook is another company trying to make money from their own users. If Google were allowed to grab all that user data from Facebook pages, then Facebook’s ability to make money goes out the window.

            The web should not be open as you state. Yes, the web should be open in the sense that if a website wants to share information with everyone else on the web, they should have that right. But on the reverse side, if a website has information that they do not wish to share, then they should have that choice as well.
            There are many private companies that would rather be blocked from Google’s eyes, not because they have something to hide, but because they only want their clients to access the site after they’ve personally given them the URL to it. That’s the way they want to run their business, they should be allowed to do so.

  3. Zachary Reiss-Davis says:

    I’m fairly confused by a main argument at the core of this — the belief that Google doesn’t WANT to integrate Facebook and Twitter items in its search results.  I disagree with that, strongly.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m not sure one way or the other about “what Google wants.” Why do you feel strongly that they would like to do this?

      • Zachary Reiss-Davis says:

        Because it would increase their dominance further over web search, and therefore web search advertising, and that’s the thing that makes all the money for them.  No matter what you think of Google’s business practices, “don’t be evil” and “make vast sums of money” line up when it comes to creating the best possible search results.

        • Anonymous says:

          Hey, I’ve written as much here: http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/06/google_v_facebook_what_we_learn_from_twitter.php This was 19 months ago…in mid 2009…
          From it:
          I think it’s a major strategic mistake to not offer this information to Google (and anyone else that wants to crawl it.) In fact, I’d argue that the right thing to do is to make just about everything possible available to Google to crawl, then sit back and watch while Google struggles with whether or not to “organize it and make it universally available.” A regular damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario, that….

      • Anonymous says:

        Because they keep going back to the table?

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  9. Douwe Osinga says:

    Seems a bit ridiculous. Facebook doesn’t let third parties index their content. For now, they let the Google bot in on selected pages, but new search engines are robot.txt’d out. Facebook says new players should go through the API, but that one is severely rate limited.

  10. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

  11. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

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  16. [...] Battelle posted his reservations about today’s update, lamenting the fact that Google’s personal search would lean so [...]

  17. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

  18. Interesting, does Google say that the have double standards?

    I mean – they respect Facebook terms and don’t index their content.But there are many pages blocking the robots and having let’s say similar terms in respect to content like Facebook does, but Google still index these.

    So when it comes to Facebook, Google follows the rules, but if you are not big as Facebook is, it doesn’t.

  19. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

  20. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

  21. [...] Macgillivray also linked to a post from John Battelle (who wrote a book about Google) in which Battelle said that the new direction the search company was taking “sucks for the web.” Bad day for the Internet. bit.ly/Am5bqz Having been there, I can [...]

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  24. Red Seo says:

    Does seem a pity Google doesn’t co-operate with Twitter more, but talk of anti-trust is definitely premature in light of how dominant Facebook is in social, not to mention their commercial relationship with Bing. 

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  30. muratbiskin says:

    Google is ruining everything for Google+  and I’m sure Google+ will never be like Facebook or get any active users more then Google fanboys.So Google please stop dreaming foe 500 million + users and focus on what you’re good at not you suck at.

    • Ross Dunn says:

      I disagree that Google “sucks” at social although they certainly did up until Plus launched. Google Plus definitely has a niche and I think it will grow as Google gets to better understand the market and increases the capabilities of the platform to draw in greater crowds. The hangout technology is brilliant and if you are into photography you should check out the amazing content and tips being shared by the enormously social photography community. There is a lot of promise at Google Plus and I think 2012 will show rapid growth – nothing like Facebook but then that is a different animal altogether.

      • Anonymous says:

        Guys I didn’t write this post to handicap Google+’s chances, but I rather like that you’re debating it.

    • Petar Subotic says:

      Same has been said for facebook in the days of myspace. 

  31. Ross Dunn says:

    What I don’t understand is why Google wouldn’t include what social insight they DO have from other networks. They obviously have some because Facebook business pages and Twitter pages are public and are included in search results. It would have shown good faith if they could have just included that data in basic terms and said… “hey, we want to do more but they have to work with us”… at least it would have held more water that way.

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  33. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

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  35. [...] Battelle posted his reservations about today's update, lamenting the fact that Google's personal search would lean so heavily on [...]

  36. [...] 今朝(米国時間1/10)からGoogleはは検索機能にGoogle+(とPicasa)を連携させるSearch Plus Your Worldと呼ばれるアップデートを順次公開し始めた。これによって通常のアルゴリズムによって生成された検索結果と並んでユーザー個人のソーシャル・コンテンツを検索した結果も表示されることになった。これに対してJohnBattelleも含めて「Googleは世界ではなく自前のネットワークだけを検索しようとしている」と批判する声も出ている。 [...]

  37. didn’t facebook go to bing?

  38. Anonymous says:

    ll

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  41. Patrick Garrett says:

    Google has every right to make this move if they feel it’s the “right one” but I not only question their timing but also their rationale for what the service actually delivers. From a timing perspective I think it’s overly aggressive to launch this without greater adoption of Google+ (in which I mean real usage of G+, not just sign-ups) and additional 3rd party sources of piped in information. I think it makes for a bad consumer experience which will ultimately do nothing to increase G+ usage and adoption. In regards to what it actually delivers I wasn’t looking for someone to return results that include what I’ve shared with others or get things from others that push other potentially more relevant items below the fold. I’d much rather have results returned based on relevance to my query with social graph signals overlaid to help me determine what results I can trust or look at more closely based on friends input or actions. In other words, don’t assume content is accurate or relevant just because someone I follow shared it with me or others in the same group. After all we’re all guilty of following some people for no better reason than to get a good discount on something we’re looking to purchase. And that’s hardly a sound foundation on which to define relevance.

    • Anonymous says:

      I think time will tell – and also as I said in the piece, it depends on how they integrate it. I certainly don’t use Google+ enough for it to “matter” in my results, yet anyway. I do use Picasa quite a bit, and yeah, I’m not sure when I search for something if I want my photos incorporated.
      We’ll see….good points.

  42. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  43. Chonssdw says:

    FB + G = end of your privacy

  44. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  45. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  46. [...] World” sollten Anwender dabei nicht zu wörtlich nehmen: Denn berücksichtigt wird dabei ausschließlich Google+. Kontakte, Daten und Inhalte aus Facebook, Twitter und von anderen Social-Web-Plattformen werden [...]

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  48. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  49. [...] he raises some issues that cast doubt on the immediate assumption that Google’s gone over to the dark side (or ventured even further, to those who think it has already resided there for a long time). At the [...]

  50. Thomas says:

    Why does any of this suck for the web? The web just keeps getting better and better from where I’m standing.

  51. [...] as is often the case, there are people who like it, and there are people who don’t. On the pro side there are who think it’s OK to emphasize Google+ in search results, so long [...]

  52. [...] day for the Internet. http://bit.ly/Am5bqz Having been there, I can imagine the dissension @Google to search being warped this way. Page 1 [...]

  53. [...] about Google’s addition of Google+ results to all search results. Siegler in turn links to John Battelle’s thoughts on the matter: Google hasn’t made peace with Facebook, and therefore is not crawling Facebook data…. [...]

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  55. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  56. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  57. [...] notoriously struggled with the presentation and searching of Facebook data – something that looks to be changing with this [...]

  58. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  59. [...] day for the Internet. http://bit.ly/Am5bqz Having been there, I can imagine the dissension @Google to search being warped this way.   [...]

  60. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  61. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  62. [...] now Twitter’s general counsel for policy, was referring to the move by Google to apparently warp its search results by boosting posts from its Google+ social network. [...]

  63. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  64. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  65. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  66. Anonymous says:

    If Google put a Facebook link on every one of it’s results, Facebook’s worth would skyrocket. Google would solidify them as the social giant. Any stragglers would eventually have to jump on the Facebook band wagon. Creating there own service, just like they created Chrome to compete with Firefox is not to “stay in their world” it’s to make sure that all the other players in the market don’t do anything drastic. Having a Google alternative for every application that we use on the internet is a “safe bet” for Google. Especially since they can afford to give always everything for free. They will just wait and when one of their opponents pulls a myspace, Google will just lean right on into the fast lane.

    • Anonymous says:

      My philosophy on this is a bit different. I think all services should share data and make it easily transportable by their customers. Then they compete on who adds the most value to that data.

  67. [...] notoriously struggled with the presentation and searching of Facebook data – something that looks to be changing with this [...]

  68. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  69. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  70. Lalo Telling says:

    Perhaps I’m on the opposite side of the #nymwars from the rest of the commenters here, as well as the author. Facebook’s and Google+’s identity policies have kept me from ever joining the former, and induced me to quit the latter three weeks into its beta phase, before they had the chance to ban me for being “fake” and lock me out of my blog, and Picasa. Thus, I fail to see how Google’s inability to crawl Facebook and Twitter is a bad thing, and how adding the noise of G+ friends’ links to the signal of genuine search results is a good thing.

    OK, I’ll grant there’s a modicum of convenience to a “one-stop-shopping” site for search — assuming you want all the foam and froth of social engagement while you’re trying to find facts and/or informed opinion. But, as we learned when gas stations became “convenience stores”, the prices rise — unfortunately, the price paid for the kind of convenience being discussed here is paid in a reduction in privacy and personal control over one’s online presence and reputation.

    • littledogboy says:

      Indeed, the Internet thus turning from of a place of obscured identity and no laws (=real freedom of speech without fear) into a place of easily traceable one with corporate TIC and unexplained decisions instead of law.

      Wish social would be separated from the rest of it be an iron curtain.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think all options will be available. IE you can always use Path for “social” and its seems to be getting traction. This battle has to do with a lot more than just social, I’d warrant.

  71. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

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  74. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

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  76. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  77. [...] of search and social is corrosive to the connective tissue of our shared culture, John Battelle writes in his blog. “But as with all things Internet, we’ll just identify the damage and [...]

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  82. Anonymous says:

    I’m completely confused by the word ‘extol’, could someone please explain it to me? After reading this I’d rather not Google it.

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  84. Anonymous says:

    For those who don’t know, this social media phase was spun together under the guise of an innovative, fairly-new way to help usher in Web 3.0

    With nearly every American consumer offering basic details about themselves, posting personal information, friends, phone numbers, etc., the various social media databases in existence are a gold mine of consumer information, as well as social statistics and preference. Twitter takes this a step further by encouraging excessive, short posts of information: what’s happening around you, where you’re headed, and most often, how you’re feeling.

    Government officials, marketing tycoons, and sometimes, strangers, can achieve a state of partial omnipotence over your lives, social network users.

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  89. [...] John Battelle 是搜索技术的专家,《连线》杂志的创始人之一。他认为 Google 的这一次整合很明显是一种“捆绑”,然而今天的情形跟当初微软有些许不同—— Google 目前在美国的搜索领域并不具有明显的垄断地位。 [...]

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  93. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until the two settled their differences and offered consumers [...]

  94. [...] announced on Tuesday that it was integrating material from Google Plus into its search results, the Web shot back, accusing the company of pushing aside competing social networks like Twitter and [...]

  95. [...] cambios no han gustado a algunos, que acusan al buscador de potenciar su propia red social (Google+) frente a sus competidores, opinión que también comparte Dan Sullivan en Search Engine Land. Hay que recordar que si [...]

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  97. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

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  102. [...] c’è anche John Battelle, fondatore e presidente della Federated Media Publishing, che in un post sul suo blog ufficiale ricorda i tempi in cui Google era un giocatore neutrale che iniziava a farsi strada nel [...]

  103. [...] who are damaged by Google, Twitter, Facebook and others’ inability to play nicely together. Says John Battelle: The unwillingness of Facebook and Google to share a public commons when it comes to the [...]

  104. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  105. [...] Internet.” Macgillivray also linked to a post from John Battelle (who wrote a book about Google) in which Battelle said that the new direction the search company was taking “sucks for the [...]

  106. [...] John Battelle 是搜索技术的专家,《连线》杂志的创始人之一。他认为 Google 的这一次整合很明显是一种“捆绑”,然而今天的情形跟当初微软有些许不同—— Google 目前在美国的搜索领域并不具有明显的垄断地位。 [...]

  107. [...] cambios no han gustado a algunos, que acusan al buscador de potenciar su propia red social (Google+) frente a sus competidores, opinión que también comparte Dan Sullivan en Search Engine Land. Hay que recordar que si bien en [...]

  108. [...] cambios no han gustado a algunos, que acusan al buscador de potenciar su propia red social (Google+) frente a sus competidores, opinión que también comparte Dan Sullivan en Search Engine Land. Hay que recordar que si [...]

  109. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  110. Sam Sung says:

    I for one am delighted that Facebook does not share it’s details with Google. The comments I make to friends on Facebook are for my friends to read. FULL STOP. Google is NOT the Internet, although it would love to be. There are other search engines out there. I advise people to look at what else is on offer and don’t be so reliant on Google.

    • Anonymous says:

      I believe what matters is for all of us to have the choice to instrument what gets indexed, searched, presented, and used for marketing. It’s our data too. And this will come to pass.

  111. Nathan Khan says:

    Hmm.. can’t see why this is of benefit unless the amount of shared results is limited or kept sperate from standard SERPs, does it not take search away from search? I can imagine in a few years just the same content being hit over and over again unless its viral videos which more often than not just internet entertainment. How well this will work for businesses? what about new businesses..

  112. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  113. Joe says:

    Why would I want google crawling my facebook data? It’s private information. Would you want them crawling your bank statements? Am I a lamer because google can only crawl what I want to be public?

    • Anonymous says:

      see my other comment, Joe. Search is bigger than just the public web. Search to me is any question I might ask of any set of information I have rights to query.

  114. [...] of hunt and amicable is erosive to a junction hankie of a common culture, John Battelle writes in his blog. “But as with all things Internet, we’ll usually brand a repairs and track [...]

  115. [...] the web. John Battelle claims that tensions between search engines and social networking platforms threaten our culture, and we need a “public commons” for social data to set things right. In the abstract (and the [...]

  116. [...] Google+ Integration In Google Search Is “Bad” For Everyone by Matt McGee, Marketing Land“Search, Plus Your World As Long as it is Our World” by John Battelle“Twitter Dumps on Google for Pushing Google+ in Search” by Liz [...]

  117. [...] John Battelle是搜索技术的专家,《连线》杂志的创始人之一。他认为Google的这一次整合很明显是一种“捆绑”,然而今天的情形跟当初微软有些许不同——Google目前在美国的搜索领域并不具有明显的垄断地位。 [...]

  118. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog spot that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  119. [...] Google changes it’s core, and shoots itself in the foot. [...]

  120. [...] one with a globe. Click the Globe to turn off sharing, click the Silhouette to turn it back on. [Searchblog - CNN - ParisLemon - Google Blog]  Posted by admin at 9:30 [...]

  121. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  122. [...] the web. John Battelle claims that tensions between search engines and social networking platforms threaten our culture, and we need a “public commons” for social data to set things right. In the abstract (and the [...]

  123. [...] Searchblog’s John Battelle, meanwhile, issued a damning indictment of the social search war between Google, Facebook and Twitter: it “sucks for the web”. [...]

  124. [...] “Search, Plus Your World As Long as it is Our World” by John Battelle [...]

  125. [...] is not a “shared public commons when it comes to the intersection of search and social” Battelle lamented: “Remember when Google used to be a neutral player that crawled the whole Dem web? So sad [...]

  126. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  127. [...] Battelle thinks it sucks for the web that Google and Facebook can’t play nice together. But as Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt [...]

  128. [...] Battelle thinks it sucks for the web that Google and Facebook can’t play nice together. But as Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt [...]

  129. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  130. [...] pour le web : « it sucks for the web ». J’adhère parfaitement à son opinion, exprimée dans un billet dont le titre annonce la couleur : « search, plus your world, as long as it’s your [...]

  131. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but rather just its [...]

  132. [...] creators of Firefox). Talk naturally turned to the implications of Google’s controversial integration of Google+ into its search results – a move that must both terrify (OMG, Google is gunning for us!) as well as delight (Holy [...]

  133. [...] come to expect. There have been plenty of critiques of the news, including John Battelle’s discussion on how this isn’t actually integrating ‘Your World’, as Google calls it, but [...]

  134. Usemeplz says:

    I think that Google try to monopolize the Internet in general, so it can “eat” Facebook in some future.. I don’t know if it is good, but its Google+ becomes much stronger..

  135. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and offered [...]

  136. [...] book, and came across the memo, and its tone and urgency struck a familiar note. The furor around Search Plus Your World has died down, but it left a bad taste in a lot of folks’ mouths. But put in the context of [...]

  137. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  138. [...] and much more. Given the tempests over Google’s integration of its privacy policies, the integration of Google+ into Google search, and Google’s circumvention of Apple’s Safari browser, it’s bound to be quite a [...]

  139. [...] change to its privacy settings. It’s taken a beating for favoring its own properties in its core search results. It’s been caught with its hands in Apple’s cookie jar, and despite the fact Facebook [...]

  140. [...] change to its privacy settings. It’s taken a beating for favoring its own properties in its core search results. It’s been caught with its hands in Apple’s cookie jar, and despite the fact Facebook and [...]

  141. [...] Battelle, a prominent tech blogger and author of “The Search,” one of the first definitive books about Google, said the [...]

  142. [...] Battelle, a prominent tech blogger and author of “The Search,” one of the first definitive books about Google, said the [...]

  143. [...] change to its privacy settings. It’s taken a beating for favoring its own properties in its core search results. It’s been caught with its hands in Apple’s cookie jar, and despite the fact Facebook and [...]

  144. Webstats Art says:

    forget google and concentrate on twitter and facebook http://www.webstatsart.com/twitter

  145. [...] This has to be the quote of the week: [...] The unwillingness of Facebook and Google to share a public commons when it comes to the intersection of search and social is corrosive to the connective tissue of our shared culture. [...]

  146. [...] The articles talks of how twitter is complaining that google search results now contain less of twitter content. According to twitter, this is not healthy to the future of internet search. [...]

  147. [...] Battelle commented that the integration “is clearly ‘tying’ in the sense of what Microsoft got slapped for in its DOJ antitrust case, but the context is different – Google doesn’t have a clear monopoly in search, just a pretty darn big one”. [...]

  148. [...] Search, Plus Your World, As Long As It’s Our World | John Battelle’s … 6 hours ago … Perusing my feeds today, I saw this post from Google’s blog: Search, plus Your World. In the post, Google extols th… [...]

  149. [...] John Battelle 是搜索技术的专家,《连线》杂志的创始人之一。他认为 Google 的这一次整合很明显是一种“捆绑”,然而今天的情形跟当初微软有些许不同—— Google 目前在美国的搜索领域并不具有明显的垄断地位。 [...]

  150. [...] be how the company bounced back once the fumble occurred. This prediction came true – Google blew its integration of Google+ into search earlier this year, but has slowly and surely corrected the blunder. Since then, the company has [...]

  151. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and [...]

  152. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and [...]

  153. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and [...]

  154. [...] expert John Battelle said in his blog post that social search would mean little until Facebook and Google settled their differences and [...]

  155. [...] Battelle thinks it sucks for the web that Google and Facebook can’t play nice together. But as Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt [...]