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By: Differentiation is about service, not data - Test, Repeat

Differentiation is about service, not data - Test, Repeat — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:49:39 +0000

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By: george

george — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:27:00 +0000

“As they get big, they get public, protective and defensive.” That really struck a cord with me, and I hold the position that our personal data imprint is rightfully ours. On some level, I visualize platforms as institutions, operating within the university system. They cultivate their own gardens but they always work in cooperation to allow members the right to gain “access and use” of information when requested. The web community really needs to visualize this level of cooperation; they are far too focused on creating limitations that only slows progress down.

By: johnbattelle

johnbattelle — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:52:00 +0000

Agreed. But I think the market may force it over time as our culture wakes up to the value of data.

By: Drew Meyers

Drew Meyers — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:11:00 +0000

Agreed. I just don’t think the right incentives are in place for it to actually happen.

By: johnbattelle

johnbattelle — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:00:00 +0000

We (by we I mean all, including those who don’t create content per se) are paying with our attention – and the exchange is the service. The service could/should include access to data co-created, is my argument…

By: Drew Meyers

Drew Meyers — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:39:00 +0000

I agree many customers want that (I’m one of them). But, if consumers want that bad enough, they should pay for it. Only the real content producers really care enough about that though — it’s a small chunk of the overall population. Only 10% of people really create any content at all, everyone else just consumes. Anything I deem I want to own long term, I write or post on my own blog, but do that knowing that it would certainly reach more people if I posted it as a “note” on FB.

By: johnbattelle

johnbattelle — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:21:00 +0000

Good point. But even in ad-supported models, I think customers should have the right to data and content they co-create. Those ad-supported models that make that possible will thrive over those that don’t, it’ll become a differentiator, then, I’d hope, table stakes.

By: Drew Meyers

Drew Meyers — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:54:00 +0000

I think this approach can work, and we’ll see some companies go down this path. But not in ad-supported models.

Ultimately, users should pay for the sites they use if they want data ownership. As much as I’d love it if every free site I have ever used gave me my data, in the format I want — I realize something/someone has to pay the bills. That something is data – and there isn’t much incentive for these sites to make it super easy to get data out.

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Locked and Bloated | Hosting In — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:26:03 +0000

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By: Anuj Agarwal

Anuj Agarwal — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 06:26:00 +0000

Then give to the world the best you have. And the best will come back to you.

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