Comments on: Tweets Belong To The User….And Words Are Complicated http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated Thoughts on the intersection of search, media, technology, and more. Mon, 20 May 2013 09:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: RW Goldberg | Social Media Marketing Expert : What is a tweet? http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-31825 RW Goldberg | Social Media Marketing Expert : What is a tweet? Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:14:19 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-31825 [...] John Battelle hits on an interesting argument with regards to the “ongoing legal battle with a Manhattan court over the legal status of tweets posted by an Occupy Wall St. protestor”: who owns tweets? Battelle’s post title says “Tweets belong to the user” but I’m not so sure. [...] [...] John Battelle hits on an interesting argument with regards to the “ongoing legal battle with a Manhattan court over the legal status of tweets posted by an Occupy Wall St. protestor”: who owns tweets? Battelle’s post title says “Tweets belong to the user” but I’m not so sure. [...]

]]> By: Twitter’s dilemma: We own our tweets, but it still wants to control them « MediaStreet News & Opinions http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-31117 Twitter’s dilemma: We own our tweets, but it still wants to control them « MediaStreet News & Opinions Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:02:13 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-31117 [...] Media founder John Battelle noted in a recent post that the company’s argument in the Occupy case raises a host of questions about what it means when a user owns their content, and what responsibilities that should impose on [...] [...] Media founder John Battelle noted in a recent post that the company’s argument in the Occupy case raises a host of questions about what it means when a user owns their content, and what responsibilities that should impose on [...]

]]> By: Twitter’s dilemma: We own our tweets, but it still wants to control them — Tech News and Analysis http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-31042 Twitter’s dilemma: We own our tweets, but it still wants to control them — Tech News and Analysis Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:41:24 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-31042 [...] founder John Battelle noted in a recent post that the company’s argument in the Occupy case raises a host of questions about what it means when a user owns their content, and what responsibilities that should impose on [...] [...] founder John Battelle noted in a recent post that the company’s argument in the Occupy case raises a host of questions about what it means when a user owns their content, and what responsibilities that should impose on [...]

]]> By: Reading about eReading this week 9/10/2012 « Allegany County Library System Director's Notes http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30651 Reading about eReading this week 9/10/2012 « Allegany County Library System Director's Notes Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:58:38 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30651 [...] Tweets Belong To The User….And Words Are Complicated Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this. Categories: ereading, libraries, publishing, Social Networks Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback [...] [...] Tweets Belong To The User….And Words Are Complicated Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this. Categories: ereading, libraries, publishing, Social Networks Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback [...]

]]> By: johnbattelle http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30643 johnbattelle Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:04:00 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30643 Arguing for the heck of it, but…how would Twitter know if I am using a client that passes my tweets to Twitter, but also does other things with it, like passing those same words (not the tweet, but the words) to other applications? Arguing for the heck of it, but…how would Twitter know if I am using a client that passes my tweets to Twitter, but also does other things with it, like passing those same words (not the tweet, but the words) to other applications?

]]> By: perryevans http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30642 perryevans Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:04:00 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30642 agree that this feels like the BIG question. I presume that a large part of Twitter's offensive posture on client app is to close off the "entry point" from becoming a point of alternate distribution. When you own the point of content entry, it's a LOT more complicated to invoke re-distribution. agree that this feels like the BIG question. I presume that a large part of Twitter’s offensive posture on client app is to close off the “entry point” from becoming a point of alternate distribution. When you own the point of content entry, it’s a LOT more complicated to invoke re-distribution.

]]> By: johnbattelle http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30641 johnbattelle Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30641 I agree that what you argue makes sense, but the Terms are not crystal clear on this. They say "you own your own Content"….and it's pretty easy to conflate Content with Tweets. However, it's clear that can't be the case. I agree that what you argue makes sense, but the Terms are not crystal clear on this. They say “you own your own Content”….and it’s pretty easy to conflate Content with Tweets. However, it’s clear that can’t be the case.

]]> By: Colin Walker http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30637 Colin Walker Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:07:00 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30637 John, As I posted on my blog, there must be a distinction made between the content and its associated tweet. The ToS is clear on the user owning the content but Twitter HAS to own the Tweet. I think this is the only way they can reconcile the user ownership of content with the ability to enforce tweet display rules via the API. The content isn't a tweet on its own - it's just words, the tweet is created by the service when the standard format is applied to the user content. The tweet is the combination of content + presentation + functionality + metadata such as conversation information. http://colinwalker.me.uk/2012/09/what-is-a-tweet/ John,

As I posted on my blog, there must be a distinction made between the content and its associated tweet.

The ToS is clear on the user owning the content but Twitter HAS to own the Tweet. I think this is the only way they can reconcile the user ownership of content with the ability to enforce tweet display rules via the API.

The content isn’t a tweet on its own – it’s just words, the tweet is created by the service when the standard format is applied to the user content. The tweet is the combination of content + presentation + functionality + metadata such as conversation information.

http://colinwalker.me.uk/2012/09/what-is-a-tweet/

]]> By: What is a tweet? http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30636 What is a tweet? Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:07:16 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30636 [...] John Battelle hits on an interesting argument with regards to the “ongoing legal battle with a Manhattan court over the legal status of tweets posted by an Occupy Wall St. protestor”: who owns tweets? Battelle’s post title says “Tweets belong to the user” but I’m not so sure. [...] [...] John Battelle hits on an interesting argument with regards to the “ongoing legal battle with a Manhattan court over the legal status of tweets posted by an Occupy Wall St. protestor”: who owns tweets? Battelle’s post title says “Tweets belong to the user” but I’m not so sure. [...]

]]> By: johnbattelle http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/09/tweets-belong-to-the-user-and-words-are-complicated.php#comment-30634 johnbattelle Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:31:00 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/?p=6717#comment-30634 Thanks for that. In any case, the implication of "owning your own tweets" stands no? Thanks for that. In any case, the implication of “owning your own tweets” stands no?

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