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	<title>Comments on: A Funny Thing Happened As I Was &#8220;Tracked&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: tobias peggs</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-31382</link>
		<dc:creator>tobias peggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just saw. that&#039;s very, very cool :) thank you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just saw. that&#8217;s very, very cool <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  thank you. </p>
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		<title>By: johnbattelle</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-31381</link>
		<dc:creator>johnbattelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool post, just RT&#039;d it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool post, just RT&#8217;d it!</p>
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		<title>By: tobias peggs</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-31377</link>
		<dc:creator>tobias peggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, several months on from this post, i&#039;ve been thinking more about retargeting - in the era of awake/asleep (as opposed to online/offline) and consistent cross platform identity (web-to-mobile). I think (hope!) you will find this interesting:  http://tobiaspeggs.tumblr.com/post/32941678899/facebook-retargeting-what-twitter-should-do-next-and</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, several months on from this post, i&#8217;ve been thinking more about retargeting &#8211; in the era of awake/asleep (as opposed to online/offline) and consistent cross platform identity (web-to-mobile). I think (hope!) you will find this interesting:  <a href="http://tobiaspeggs.tumblr.com/post/32941678899/facebook-retargeting-what-twitter-should-do-next-and" rel="nofollow">http://tobiaspeggs.tumblr.com/post/32941678899/facebook-retargeting-what-twitter-should-do-next-and</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oxyfish &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Defaults matter - Yieldex CEO Tom Shields' Blog</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-30169</link>
		<dc:creator>Oxyfish &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Defaults matter - Yieldex CEO Tom Shields' Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  A very few people care a lot about online cookies, on both extremes: some our outraged and some think everything&#8217;s fine.  And an extremely large percentage of people don&#8217;t seem to care much one way or the other. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  A very few people care a lot about online cookies, on both extremes: some our outraged and some think everything&#8217;s fine.  And an extremely large percentage of people don&#8217;t seem to care much one way or the other. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparency and control is critical I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparency and control is critical I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few quick thoughts about &quot;tracking&quot;:

1. Just because we are tracked with credit cards it doesn&#039;t mean we have no interest in privacy.
2. One of the biggest issues is the asymmetrical knowledge about who is tracking what and who is buying that information.
3. If presented in a more explicit manner people might be willing to pay for content rather than sell their personal information to all bidders.
4. As always, time will tell. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few quick thoughts about &#8220;tracking&#8221;:</p>
<p>1. Just because we are tracked with credit cards it doesn&#8217;t mean we have no interest in privacy.<br />
2. One of the biggest issues is the asymmetrical knowledge about who is tracking what and who is buying that information.<br />
3. If presented in a more explicit manner people might be willing to pay for content rather than sell their personal information to all bidders.<br />
4. As always, time will tell. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-28837</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, I&#039;m not sure most users even realize they have that power. I hope that is going to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, I&#8217;m not sure most users even realize they have that power. I hope that is going to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-28836</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to read that chapter again! Thanks for reading, Joel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to read that chapter again! Thanks for reading, Joel.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
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		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this is splitting hairs but I view this a bit differently. The opt in/out feature is about choice, do you want to participate in a customized service (experience/preference)? It&#039;s not specific to privacy and/or security which is the end point.

As long as the user has the power (independence), we have the right rhythm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is splitting hairs but I view this a bit differently. The opt in/out feature is about choice, do you want to participate in a customized service (experience/preference)? It&#8217;s not specific to privacy and/or security which is the end point.</p>
<p>As long as the user has the power (independence), we have the right rhythm.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Kalmanowicz</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2012/02/a-funny-thing-happened-as-i-was-tracked.php#comment-28828</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Kalmanowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John, I was watching a Google Hangout where Jeff Moore mentioned your book &#039;The Search&#039;, and since I will be shortly applying to work at Google, I bought a digital edition of it and read it. I have now begun reading your blog, and want to let you know that it&#039;s not only great to see some very lively and interesting discussion in these comments, it&#039;s amazing how frequently you yourself reply! :)

On this topic, I am particularly interested in what winterbagel and Nathan brought up. My two cents: many of the emotional reactions involved here seem to arise as a result of people not realising how much information they are willingly providing when using services, and then finding out in a very surprising and, to them, invasive manner. To be fair, relevant advertising has supported many free services and has done so at _least_ since radio. It&#039;s only now that the use of the service itself can provide phenomenally personal information--which is most visible when this information is used to target ads--that people care.

While I understand this concern, there&#039;s a point where I can&#039;t really empathise because I know that everything I do on the web is potentially freely available information to whatever service I&#039;m using unless promised otherwise. And I know that it can take a LOT of effort to produce these services and it&#039;s only natural that some trade be involved. But perhaps many a layman user has not fully understand how this happens due to the technical complexity of the service and/or lack of transparency on how it works, and this may have engendered a culture of entitlement to the service without provision of anything in return--especially private information! Of course I know it&#039;s not quite as simple as that, I only wanted to pitch in my view of that _part_ of it. I&#039;m optimistic that the industry will indeed continue to improve these systems though; and if they don&#039;t then one way of looking at it is that it leaves an interesting opening in the market!

Appropriately enough, it all reminds me a lot of the start of Chapter 8: Search, Privacy, Government, and Evil in &#039;The Search&#039; ;) so thanks again for that and for this discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, I was watching a Google Hangout where Jeff Moore mentioned your book &#8217;The Search&#8217;, and since I will be shortly applying to work at Google, I bought a digital edition of it and read it. I have now begun reading your blog, and want to let you know that it&#8217;s not only great to see some very lively and interesting discussion in these comments, it&#8217;s amazing how frequently you yourself reply! <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On this topic, I am particularly interested in what winterbagel and Nathan brought up. My two cents: many of the emotional reactions involved here seem to arise as a result of people not realising how much information they are willingly providing when using services, and then finding out in a very surprising and, to them, invasive manner. To be fair, relevant advertising has supported many free services and has done so at _least_ since radio. It&#8217;s only now that the use of the service itself can provide phenomenally personal information&#8211;which is most visible when this information is used to target ads&#8211;that people care.</p>
<p>While I understand this concern, there&#8217;s a point where I can&#8217;t really empathise because I know that everything I do on the web is potentially freely available information to whatever service I&#8217;m using unless promised otherwise. And I know that it can take a LOT of effort to produce these services and it&#8217;s only natural that some trade be involved. But perhaps many a layman user has not fully understand how this happens due to the technical complexity of the service and/or lack of transparency on how it works, and this may have engendered a culture of entitlement to the service without provision of anything in return&#8211;especially private information! Of course I know it&#8217;s not quite as simple as that, I only wanted to pitch in my view of that _part_ of it. I&#8217;m optimistic that the industry will indeed continue to improve these systems though; and if they don&#8217;t then one way of looking at it is that it leaves an interesting opening in the market!</p>
<p>Appropriately enough, it all reminds me a lot of the start of Chapter 8: Search, Privacy, Government, and Evil in &#8216;The Search&#8217; <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  so thanks again for that and for this discussion!</p>
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