Comments on: Compete To Death, or Cooperate to Compete?

By: Who Controls Our Data? A Puzzle. | John Battelle's Search Blog

Who Controls Our Data? A Puzzle. | John Battelle's Search Blog — Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:45:54 +0000

[...] consumers). Microsoft has a deal to use our Facebook data on Bing, for example. And of course, the inability of Facebook and Google to cut a data sharing deal back in 2009 is one of the major reasons Google built Google+. The two sides simply could not come to terms, and [...]

By: Facebook Finds Quieter Ways to Complain About Google’s Search+ | Facebook Focus

Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:53:51 +0000

[...] on the surface, at least. Multiple stories about Google and Facebook’s 2009 failed negotiations over a search deal can clearly be [...]

By: Dirty Little Secrets: The Trouble With Social Search | Social Plus One

Dirty Little Secrets: The Trouble With Social Search | Social Plus One — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:28:04 +0000

[...] But Facebook and Google have good reason to be mutually wary of one another. A source from the Facebook side familiar with the two companies’ 2009 negotiations over integrating their data told Federated Media’s John Battelle that Google refused two terms that Facebook insisted on including: [...]

By: Why Facebook is not part of Google’s SPYW

Why Facebook is not part of Google’s SPYW — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:11:22 +0000

[...] to the data it needs. So, how come Facebook and Google never managed to reach a deal? Journalist John Battelle of Wired fame tries to explain: I’ve heard from a source with knowledge of the Facebook/Google [...]

By: michael_webster

michael_webster — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:32:00 +0000

That is a kind response. You are welcome.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:34:00 +0000

No, thank you for the thoughtful comment.
I’ll have more on this subject soon.

By: michael_webster

michael_webster — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:02:00 +0000

John writes: “I considered his idea, but for various reasons, we didn’t take him up on it. I felt like we had the dominant position, that his offer was driven by weakness, not intellectual soundness, and I also felt that a combination would require that my shareholders take on too much dilution.
Two years later, both of us were out of business.”
Congratulations on discovering belatedly that you left money on the table because you weren’t a sophisticated bargainer.
For almost 50 years, since the early 1960′s, academics have been writing about how to manage the tension between creating/claiming value. In the 80′s, the program got a practical boost with Lax and Sebinuis’s “The Manager as Negotiator”, and PON continues to run Creating/Claiming value seminars.
However, I don’t see any of the Google/Facebook crowd having the intellectual rigor and honesty to learn and expect that they will wreck their businesses on shoals of anti-trust lawsuit. Only Hal Varian might be able to persuade some of the engineers at Google that there is a valuable engineering component to game theory inspired collaboration, the type discussed by in Co-opetition.
(Sorry this is so long – didn’t have time to make it shorter.)

By: Mashable’s irresponsible reporting, the social data tiff, and D&B’s content farm

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:56:03 +0000

[...] In a lengthy piece—skip to the closing footnote—John Battelle claims that the Google/Facebook deal fell apart over privacy concerns. [...]

By: Facebook Finds Quieter Ways to Complain About Google’s Search+

Facebook Finds Quieter Ways to Complain About Google’s Search+ — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:01:32 +0000

[...] on the surface, at least. Multiple stories about Google and Facebook’s 2009 failed negotiations over a search deal can clearly be [...]

By: oakleys

oakleys — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:29:00 +0000

TYCLLJTMSHBCO
Welcome to Oakley Sunglasses Hut to buy cool and cheap oakleys sunglasses.