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	<title>Comments on: Kevin Kelly&#8217;s &#8220;What Technology Wants&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Can The Future Be Perfect? It Can Certainly Be Better &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search BlogJohn Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-31817</link>
		<dc:creator>Can The Future Be Perfect? It Can Certainly Be Better &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search BlogJohn Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly (review) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will Our Industry Ever Innovate Like Morse? Probably Not. &#124;</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-30163</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Our Industry Ever Innovate Like Morse? Probably Not. &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly (my review) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will Our Industry Ever Innovate Like Morse? Probably Not. &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-30147</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Our Industry Ever Innovate Like Morse? Probably Not. &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Rob. I hope to bring all these points of view (and more, way behind in my reviews) when I finish writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Rob. I hope to bring all these points of view (and more, way behind in my reviews) when I finish writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Stolzy</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-30106</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Stolzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology doesn&#039;t want anything.  It is not an entity capable of desire.  The &#039;technium&#039; is simply something KK dreamt up, a concept he has become in love with.  And the reason the reviewer has the sense that no real narrative argument is presented to justify according any reality to KK&#039;s dreamt-up concept is simply that there is none.  Like an enchanted philosopher stoned on his almost wannabee worldview, he churns about amidst myriad delightful anecdotes and memes which inhabit his mind, unable to enforce any structure upon them to create a convincing meaning. KK&#039;s thinking has always had this boundless bouncing character since I first became aware of him 3 decades back.  He&#039;s better suited to uncovering and pointing to new phenomena than he is to abstracting a system from all his observations.

Readers wanting an example of less ego-submerged thinking about social and technical developments are better off consulting Jaron Lanier, whom the reviewer also has discussed recently. Lanier offers much more cogent insights, and one has the sense that further refined observations are coming about the themes which interest him. Besides arguments derived from real human experience instead of abstract theorizing, Lanier offers a grounded approach which is no afraid to proclaim the self-evident reality of things like mind and spirit and consciousness.  Thus he is not handcuffed like many modern intellects by a slavish allegiance to an ideology which cannot withstand serious scrutiny, but rather tried to survive and extend itself by escaping critical examination and functioning as a modern axiom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology doesn&#8217;t want anything.  It is not an entity capable of desire.  The &#8216;technium&#8217; is simply something KK dreamt up, a concept he has become in love with.  And the reason the reviewer has the sense that no real narrative argument is presented to justify according any reality to KK&#8217;s dreamt-up concept is simply that there is none.  Like an enchanted philosopher stoned on his almost wannabee worldview, he churns about amidst myriad delightful anecdotes and memes which inhabit his mind, unable to enforce any structure upon them to create a convincing meaning. KK&#8217;s thinking has always had this boundless bouncing character since I first became aware of him 3 decades back.  He&#8217;s better suited to uncovering and pointing to new phenomena than he is to abstracting a system from all his observations.</p>
<p>Readers wanting an example of less ego-submerged thinking about social and technical developments are better off consulting Jaron Lanier, whom the reviewer also has discussed recently. Lanier offers much more cogent insights, and one has the sense that further refined observations are coming about the themes which interest him. Besides arguments derived from real human experience instead of abstract theorizing, Lanier offers a grounded approach which is no afraid to proclaim the self-evident reality of things like mind and spirit and consciousness.  Thus he is not handcuffed like many modern intellects by a slavish allegiance to an ideology which cannot withstand serious scrutiny, but rather tried to survive and extend itself by escaping critical examination and functioning as a modern axiom.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaron Lanier: Something Doesn&#8217;t Smell Right &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaron Lanier: Something Doesn&#8217;t Smell Right &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly (my review) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: On &#8220;The Corporation,&#8221; the Film &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-28310</link>
		<dc:creator>On &#8220;The Corporation,&#8221; the Film &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Where Good Ideas Come From: A Tangled Bank &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-27851</link>
		<dc:creator>Where Good Ideas Come From: A Tangled Bank &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Singularity Is Weird &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-27063</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singularity Is Weird &#124; John Battelle&#039;s Search Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few more passes by a structural editor), but it is an important one to read. As Kevin Kelly said in What Technology Wants, Kurzweil has written a book that will be cited over and over again as our culture attempts to sort [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Crowl</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2011/11/kevin-kellys-what-technology-wants.php#comment-25744</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Crowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;ve not yet read the book... I followed (and commented occasionally) on his blog ( http://KK.org/thetechnium ) as he was publishing essays which I believe came to form the core of &quot;What Technology Wants&quot;

Essentially I agree with his view... (if I&#039;m stating it roughly correctly that both life, and the technology produced by life... are natural parts of a more comprehensive universal drive towards consciousness, intelligence... or something akin to old Teijard&#039;s vision).

The only issue I have is what sometimes seems like excessive optimism about the outcome.

For whether you&#039;re an atheist physicist or a fundamentalist Christian (NO, I don&#039;t believe KK is a fundamentalist!)...

The assumption they&#039;ve both come to share is the essential and universal nature of uncertainty...

For the physicist this is exemplified by Quantum mechanics and Schrodinger&#039;s Cat...

For the Christian its the dilemma of Free Will and the prospect of Heaven or Hell.

While the universe may drive to Godhead... individuals, civilizations and planets most likely don&#039;t make it. I&#039;d suspect that any single planet&#039;s evolutionary process has less chance of getting to Godhead... than an individual seed in the tomato on your sandwich has of becoming a tomato plant.

It really is about the decisions we make individually and  collectively... And I&quot;d suggest that the technologies of decision are being sorely neglected.

And naturally I&#039;m going to add...

Money is a Decision Technology. I&#039;d suggest that there&#039;s as much or more utility in regarding it as a store of &#039;decision rights&#039; as there is in regarding it as a store of &#039;value&#039;...

In a scaled civilization its ESSENTIAL to make transaction in very small amounts viable... especially in speech, opinion and decision related activity involving large numbers of people. I suppose its a bit over the top to suggest that its a pre-requisite for planetary survival... but maybe not. Because our planetary decision systems suck the big one right now.

Though I&#039;m sure its worthy of some discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;ve not yet read the book&#8230; I followed (and commented occasionally) on his blog ( <a href="http://KK.org/thetechnium" rel="nofollow">http://KK.org/thetechnium</a> ) as he was publishing essays which I believe came to form the core of &#8220;What Technology Wants&#8221;</p>
<p>Essentially I agree with his view&#8230; (if I&#8217;m stating it roughly correctly that both life, and the technology produced by life&#8230; are natural parts of a more comprehensive universal drive towards consciousness, intelligence&#8230; or something akin to old Teijard&#8217;s vision).</p>
<p>The only issue I have is what sometimes seems like excessive optimism about the outcome.</p>
<p>For whether you&#8217;re an atheist physicist or a fundamentalist Christian (NO, I don&#8217;t believe KK is a fundamentalist!)&#8230;</p>
<p>The assumption they&#8217;ve both come to share is the essential and universal nature of uncertainty&#8230;</p>
<p>For the physicist this is exemplified by Quantum mechanics and Schrodinger&#8217;s Cat&#8230;</p>
<p>For the Christian its the dilemma of Free Will and the prospect of Heaven or Hell.</p>
<p>While the universe may drive to Godhead&#8230; individuals, civilizations and planets most likely don&#8217;t make it. I&#8217;d suspect that any single planet&#8217;s evolutionary process has less chance of getting to Godhead&#8230; than an individual seed in the tomato on your sandwich has of becoming a tomato plant.</p>
<p>It really is about the decisions we make individually and  collectively&#8230; And I&#8221;d suggest that the technologies of decision are being sorely neglected.</p>
<p>And naturally I&#8217;m going to add&#8230;</p>
<p>Money is a Decision Technology. I&#8217;d suggest that there&#8217;s as much or more utility in regarding it as a store of &#8216;decision rights&#8217; as there is in regarding it as a store of &#8216;value&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>In a scaled civilization its ESSENTIAL to make transaction in very small amounts viable&#8230; especially in speech, opinion and decision related activity involving large numbers of people. I suppose its a bit over the top to suggest that its a pre-requisite for planetary survival&#8230; but maybe not. Because our planetary decision systems suck the big one right now.</p>
<p>Though I&#8217;m sure its worthy of some discussion.</p>
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