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	<title>Comments on: Ping: &quot;Facebook and Twitter meet iTunes&quot; Except&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Brendan Brown</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2010/09/ping_facebook_and_twitter_meet_itunes_except.php#comment-1604</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great blog John!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was wondering if anyone had found or thought of ways artists can use PING to market to new fans (outside of the obvious)?  Any great marketing strategies or success stories people have heard of by leveraging PING or has its inherent exclusivity limited these opportunities?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog John!</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone had found or thought of ways artists can use PING to market to new fans (outside of the obvious)?  Any great marketing strategies or success stories people have heard of by leveraging PING or has its inherent exclusivity limited these opportunities?</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram, Winnipeg, MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiram, Winnipeg, MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The more successful Apple becomes, the more threatened the established players feel, and the more feeble criticisms are heard in response to every Apple move.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Facebook has been trying to monetize the music interests of its members. Apple is just adding some socialization amongst its already lucrative membership. They had hoped to include Facebook, but Facebook&#039;s terms were too onerous.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So they try it themselves... the joy of  free enterprise is it will work or die on it&#039;s own merits.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more successful Apple becomes, the more threatened the established players feel, and the more feeble criticisms are heard in response to every Apple move.</p>
<p>Facebook has been trying to monetize the music interests of its members. Apple is just adding some socialization amongst its already lucrative membership. They had hoped to include Facebook, but Facebook&#8217;s terms were too onerous.</p>
<p>So they try it themselves&#8230; the joy of  free enterprise is it will work or die on it&#8217;s own merits.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot Hacker</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2010/09/ping_facebook_and_twitter_meet_itunes_except.php#comment-1602</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot Hacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not bothered by the lack of Facebook or Twitter integration. They&#039;d be nice, but I think it&#039;s unfair to say that anyone who wants to start a new social network *has* to bow down to the reigning champs and admit that their userbase cannot grow itself, that it can only exist or grow if it &quot;borrows&quot; from entrenched networks. After all, FB and Twitter were new once too - they had to grow their userbases organically. Every new social net should have the same opportunity and not have to admit that they can&#039;t get traction without borrowing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, iTunes already has a userbase of millions - it&#039;s not like they&#039;re starting cold.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That aside, what blows me away about Ping is how unfinished, how unpolished it is. There&#039;s nothing to do there, and limitations everywhere. It simply was not ready for release, and that&#039;s not very Apple-like. They&#039;re known for new products that emerge from the gate with fit and finish, lots of polish. Ping feels like it needed a few more months of development time. This seemed like something Google would do, e.g. &quot;Here&#039;s our beta product - go play.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not bothered by the lack of Facebook or Twitter integration. They&#8217;d be nice, but I think it&#8217;s unfair to say that anyone who wants to start a new social network *has* to bow down to the reigning champs and admit that their userbase cannot grow itself, that it can only exist or grow if it &#8220;borrows&#8221; from entrenched networks. After all, FB and Twitter were new once too &#8211; they had to grow their userbases organically. Every new social net should have the same opportunity and not have to admit that they can&#8217;t get traction without borrowing. </p>
<p>Also, iTunes already has a userbase of millions &#8211; it&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re starting cold.</p>
<p>That aside, what blows me away about Ping is how unfinished, how unpolished it is. There&#8217;s nothing to do there, and limitations everywhere. It simply was not ready for release, and that&#8217;s not very Apple-like. They&#8217;re known for new products that emerge from the gate with fit and finish, lots of polish. Ping feels like it needed a few more months of development time. This seemed like something Google would do, e.g. &#8220;Here&#8217;s our beta product &#8211; go play.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: vkodass</title>
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		<dc:creator>vkodass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you but from my personal experience, it bought 4000 Facebook fans from www.socialkik.com and they added them to my page in a little over 1 month. All the fans appeared to be real and some of them turned out to be great customers.&lt;br /&gt;
You should use www.socialkik.com to buy Facebook fans... we purchased 10,000 Facebook fans and we&#039;re quite satisfied with the results. It&#039;s completely legal because the fans are real and they don&#039;t join your page until they check it and find it interestings. Socialkik.com keeps sending suggestions to become a fan until the order is fulfilled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you but from my personal experience, it bought 4000 Facebook fans from <a href="http://www.socialkik.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialkik.com</a> and they added them to my page in a little over 1 month. All the fans appeared to be real and some of them turned out to be great customers.<br />
You should use <a href="http://www.socialkik.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialkik.com</a> to buy Facebook fans&#8230; we purchased 10,000 Facebook fans and we&#8217;re quite satisfied with the results. It&#8217;s completely legal because the fans are real and they don&#8217;t join your page until they check it and find it interestings. Socialkik.com keeps sending suggestions to become a fan until the order is fulfilled.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi John.  An interesting point and I made a related one on my blog yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is an attempt to take one more step back up Apple&#039;s vertical integration in the music industry.  They already have distribution and consumption tied up with iTunes and iPod and now they&#039;re trying to tie up promotion/discovery as well with Ping.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Only iTunes users can use Ping, only iPod users can use iTunes etc.  Not to mention only artists on iTunes can be &#039;discovered&#039; on Ping.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is a threat to diversity and discovery, not a means of unlocking them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John.  An interesting point and I made a related one on my blog yesterday.</p>
<p>This is an attempt to take one more step back up Apple&#8217;s vertical integration in the music industry.  They already have distribution and consumption tied up with iTunes and iPod and now they&#8217;re trying to tie up promotion/discovery as well with Ping.</p>
<p>Only iTunes users can use Ping, only iPod users can use iTunes etc.  Not to mention only artists on iTunes can be &#8216;discovered&#8217; on Ping.</p>
<p>This is a threat to diversity and discovery, not a means of unlocking them.</p>
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		<title>By: ugg canada</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2010/09/ping_facebook_and_twitter_meet_itunes_except.php#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>ugg canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Check out my blog at www.goodURLbadURL.com. It won&#039;t give you the stats you&#039;re looking for but it&#039;s a fun look at domains and I have links to some good resources like Inside Domaining and Domain Name International.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out my blog at <a href="http://www.goodURLbadURL.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.goodURLbadURL.com</a>. It won&#8217;t give you the stats you&#8217;re looking for but it&#8217;s a fun look at domains and I have links to some good resources like Inside Domaining and Domain Name International.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2010/09/ping_facebook_and_twitter_meet_itunes_except.php#comment-1598</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, and its like, I&#039;ve seen even fervent Apple supporters say today on Twitter, &quot;What can only big name artists have an &#039;artist&#039; page on Ping?&quot; and I&#039;m thinking &quot;Are you surprised?&quot; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and its like, I&#8217;ve seen even fervent Apple supporters say today on Twitter, &#8220;What can only big name artists have an &#8216;artist&#8217; page on Ping?&#8221; and I&#8217;m thinking &#8220;Are you surprised?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple took facebook connect off sue to a server overload on launch. If you look at the artist pages, their updates have come from their facebook feed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple took facebook connect off sue to a server overload on launch. If you look at the artist pages, their updates have come from their facebook feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kafka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a FB Connect integration, but that&#039;s of very, very limited use.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a FB Connect integration, but that&#8217;s of very, very limited use.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe they will be selling an app that lets you connect Ping to Facebook and Twitter. Most likely, one app for each in order to boost sales.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they will be selling an app that lets you connect Ping to Facebook and Twitter. Most likely, one app for each in order to boost sales.</p>
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