Comments on: Of Course Apple Is Going to Do Search.

By: Ivan - Comunidad Beta

Ivan - Comunidad Beta — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:44:00 +0000

As well as finding offers bread crumbs to the Web, make recommendations forapplications, in my humble opinion. These recommendations can be tailored by the server-side processes that are driven by business rules, and promote a URL for an application (client) that is tied to a server. Or they can be wired independent, non-tied applications, to the extent provided in one place.

By: Ivan - Comunidad Beta

Ivan - Comunidad Beta — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:08:00 +0000

I wonder what new can be done in the search. Bing is trying to beat Google by continuedmaking stupid ads on TV, but honestly, having seen many failed projects ”look in miniature”for websites, etc. I have curiosity about what can be invented will be new and better in some way.

By: Jesus13 | Descargar Ares

Jesus13 | Descargar Ares — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:03:00 +0000

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By: techie.brandon

techie.brandon — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:26:55 +0000

@jewsroch: Point well taken, I do agree that sometimes having a single target to develop toward can accelerate some forms of technological advancement. I think we already have a great example from the past to base observations on this type of development model. The domination of the intel processor comes to mind; while not the best processor of the time it became most prominent due to the suffocation of other competitors due to market strategy and questionable business tactics. The real question becomes whether this is the best technology for the indefinite future. In my mind we should allow all technologies to compete on a level playing field and not let those with the most money buy the field. With your comparison I have to question who’s product is really better? Apple’s Safari or Mozilla’s Firefox? I think most would agree Firefox has a huge fan-base and is moving very aggressively with the small developer-base that it has in comparison to the enormous money and cycles that both MS and Apple throw at their browsers. I think a appropriate comparison is Google versus Apple… I don’t assume open-source/collaborative approach can be the sole approach without leadership, direction, and oversight (corporate when you become of significant size). I just don’t think they should lock-out outside developers with competing products to their own and I think they should expose their code for peer review from the masses. The more people included usually ends up with a greater product and fewer security concerns; guidance is required of course. I certainly plan on keeping an eye on Apple, my profession requires it, and this is certainly a health discussion I just like to remind everyone of the drawbacks of proprietary and lock-in vendors. IBM, Oracle, etc have all moved away from their proprietary models to some extent or another with great results… each provides proprietary enhancements but don’t require you to use them. Sometimes if enough vendors are using similar enhancements they get together and come up with a standard to increase interoperability and help those of us coding to speed our development. I like this model… it has proved effective. Sorry so long Warm Regards

By: Ouriel

Ouriel — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 06:34:08 +0000

John

the problem is not search in itself but app discovery at large, search being one of the ways to adress discovery. You point to the social graph for example in your post. This is why we created http://Appsfire.com a multi mechanism discovery site including social graph, collective recommendation algorithm (something like Genius, but focused on relevance and geography), super fast app search, vertical and curated selections and a lot more coming.

The signal in my mind lays in 3 parts: usage, geography and in-app data. think about spotlight+iTunes search +maps search combined+some secret sauce we are building (and Apple probably too)

let s see what apple will announce next week. But we believe discovery is a major issue that Apple alone will not solve, just like they did not solve it on music and movies and gave room for companies like Last.fm or RottenTomatoes

By: jewsroch

jewsroch — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 04:11:07 +0000

@techie.brandon – I don’t think apple is “sapping the industry and providing nothing in return” at all. In fact I think it’s the opposite. Apple’s closed model, albeit frustrating to anyone outside, enables them to create products that define the target. They’ve set the bar on almost all of their more recent launches… ipod, iphone, maybe tablet, os x. Maybe they do combine or redefine existing technologies, but they do that better than anyone else. If the world of innovation or tech development was left only to redhat or mozilla, the speed at which everyone would create would be slower. Not to slight those projects… I think they’re great and also necessary. But the Apples of the world have a faster and more aggressive pace which pushes everyone up. As for Apple falling down again… who knows… I’d keep an eye on this app-”found” notion…

By: Steve@tvstrategies.com

Steve@tvstrategies.com — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:00:48 +0000

Just as Search provides breadcrumbs for the Web, Recommendation will do so for Apps, imho. Those recommendations can be custom-tailored by server-side processes that are driven by business rules, and push a URL to an App (client) that’s tethered to a server. Or they can be hard-wired into free-standing, non-tethered Apps, to always point to one place.

By: TheRealBill

TheRealBill — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:15:06 +0000

@app_developer: that app already exists. OmniFocus from the Omni Group does that with certain tasks. It could be a bit smarter but would require store-side work.

By: Carlos

Carlos — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:32:01 +0000

Hi,

I really enjoyed reading your article.

The question is:

What will we have in, say, 5-10 years, web apps all over the internet that can be executed from any devices having a browser or Apple devices everywhere running Apple apps?

Right now we have both approaches and they receive lots and lots of money from consumers and investors. Which one will prevail?

Carlos.

By: Kurt

Kurt — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:31:36 +0000

There is a signal– Appolicious.com, and they just did an integration/distribution deal with Yahoo.