Comments on: Is Apple's iWorld "The Web"?

By: another John

another John — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:29:50 +0000

Why did you frame that question about Apple the way you did?

I think you're not seeing the forest for the trees.

What was the first mass produced personal computer that shipped without a floppy drive? WHY?

Have your son install Linux on that Dell!

By: Perrbo

Perrbo — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:11:59 +0000

No, Apple's iWorld isn't the Web. The Web is the Web. That's like asking if Ford is the automobile or combustion engine.

Is there any threat that Apple will monopolize the web? No, it doesn't have the market share. Will it? who knows, but if that ever becomes a threat, we have anti trust laws to prevent it. Look what happened to Standard Oil, Ma Bell and Microsoft.

I just don't get all the handwringing about how Apple is the threat that it is, or that it restricts our internet freedoms or is dumbing down the web. Limits can be a good thing - take gravity or term limits for instance. @Vishnu - I think you hit the nail brilliantly on the head re Curation.

That being said, Google is by far a much bigger threat than Apple re controlling or restricting the web. Why THIS isn't a point of debate at conferences like FOO astounds me.

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:21:46 +0000

John, there's sufficient grounds to believe that the dichotomy that brought Apple down once no longer applies at all.

The reason has nothing to do with the Web per se, rather with the nose-diving costs (human and $$s) of developing software. It's entirely realistic to support any number of mobile platforms today. It takes a proficient developer 10 - 15 days to become useful in developing for the iPhone even if he's never written Objective-C before.

Ditto for customer loyalty. I'm on my 4th iPhone only because I like the tactile and visual aspects. Otherwise, AT&T sucks enough ass that I will gladly switch as soon as I meet an Android equally pleasing to hand and eye, may hell hath dominion over termination costs.

We can't call the iWorld a part of the Web, but it'll never be too far away from it - Steve can control every aspect but the customer. The more commoditized platforms and software become, the more Apple gets dragged down to level ground with everyone else.

By: TektonikShift

TektonikShift — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:36:22 +0000

Yes, "Google is on one side and Apple iWorld is on the other", but for us users, its not 'either or'.

For certain things, we go out the Web. For other things we enjoy safe & familiar.

Apple understands this, all Apple devices have that window (browser) the takes straight to the Web.

-Tek
http://twitter.com/TektonikShift

By: Jeff Rivett

Jeff Rivett — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:56:58 +0000

Long ago, I belonged to an Apple User Group. We helped each other solve our Apple II problems, shared software and talked about computers in general. At one memorable meeting, the organizers brought in a computer store employee to demonstrate Apple’s latest thing: the Mac. I sat through the breathless presentation and noticed the general buzz of excitement in the room. I didn’t get it at first, but after listening to some of the questions from the audience, I figured it out and asked a question of my own: “So this is a computer for stupid people, right?” Many angry glances were directed my way and the presenter declined to answer. In retrospect, what I really meant was that this was a computer for people who were not actually interested in computers or how they work. To them, a computer works best if it’s an appliance. These people became Apple’s core customer base, and they have been ever since. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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By: Marc Canter

Marc Canter — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:32:36 +0000

Yo all you commentators - isn't it interesting that we can have this conversation about whether Apple is the Web or not - yet at the same time be confronted by little blue F's all over the place - and no one has brought up Facebook?

Isn't Facebook ALSO perverting and diverting the web into it's own version of the Internet? Aren't Apple and Facebook very related in their corruptive ways?

I choose NOT to use Facebook Connect to log in. And I choose to "Like" this article, but its practically impossible to NOT run into Facebook in our everyday travels on the web.

And Twitter is ALSO subverting the web, in their own, closed, single vendor-way.

So my own conclusions are that the web is SO coolio - that it enables Apple, Facebook and Twitter to be corruptors - and yet we all still roll along through our on-line digital lives. And still be "lame" at the same time.

Wanna know lame?

How 'bout Wall St getting away with murder and our 'so-called' populist President letting them do that?

How 'bout BP - and 14k deep water wells? Think MAYBE they should have remedies to possible problems? That's lame!

And the Middle East? Do you think that PERHAPS Jews should live in Palestine and Palestinians live in Israel? Imagine that!

the world is a lame place and as Pappa John tried to explain to his son - what wins is compelling user experiences that make customers keep coming back for more. I sense that Microsoft is finally figuring that out. The XBox proves that.

Microsoft's biggest problem are their own employees. But Apple fanboys don't care about that - they're just happy to stay locked into one of the most vicious lock-in vices we've ever seen!

And SOME of us get to be invited to exclusive, foobar events in Sebastapol.

By: w.Disney

w.Disney — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:31:16 +0000

As I’ve said before, Steve is trying to create Shangri-la on his devices. Click on any iphone-type device and you enter Shangri-la. Strange and sometimes beautiful creatures. But in the end not much depth because it is an attempt to create a utopia based on one man’s vision of Utopia. His world is just like Disneyland. Everything you see, eat and hear is from Disney or ABC. If you like Disneyland, you’ll like the iPhone OS and will soon forget what the rest of the world is like.

By: A Modern Military Mother

A Modern Military Mother — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:15:53 +0000

I would like to grow my own little IT geek. I have a 7 year old son that is kind of keen but needs directing. It would be nice to have a little homegrown inhouse expert. Any top tips?

By: Dainius Blynas

Dainius Blynas — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:35:44 +0000

I am not surprised how many of comments are pro-apple comments we are here. They’ve clearly got the winning hand right now. We’ll see about “later”, later.