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	<title>Comments on: The ROI of iAds &#8211; A Lot of Unanswered Questions</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hopefully we will get to see if your predictions are right on Monday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t wait.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully we will get to see if your predictions are right on Monday.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>By: art from antioch</title>
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		<dc:creator>art from antioch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;great post&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post</p>
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		<title>By: vishi gondi</title>
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		<dc:creator>vishi gondi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple has been beating the drum about banning flash, while the important issue is about banning analytics on iDevices. Wonder why Adobe employee blogs don&#039;t call it out in public. May be Flash would get on the iPhone after-all. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since Apple would remove all client side analytics and load the Ad experience at load time, am sure the minimal data it has about app downloads coupled with the experience would drive a lot of ad clicks compared to iAd competitors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It boils down to the improvement in brand recognition and sales that ad buyers can detect after their campaigns on iDevices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The results could be very good at launch, when the iAd experience feels new to users, but could drop fast. The question is, will Apple come up with some thing new to track engagement, that can allow it charge higher pricing for the most important ads.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That would be hard to pull through if Apple takes the &quot;ban analytics&quot; high ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has been beating the drum about banning flash, while the important issue is about banning analytics on iDevices. Wonder why Adobe employee blogs don&#8217;t call it out in public. May be Flash would get on the iPhone after-all. </p>
<p>Since Apple would remove all client side analytics and load the Ad experience at load time, am sure the minimal data it has about app downloads coupled with the experience would drive a lot of ad clicks compared to iAd competitors.</p>
<p>It boils down to the improvement in brand recognition and sales that ad buyers can detect after their campaigns on iDevices.</p>
<p>The results could be very good at launch, when the iAd experience feels new to users, but could drop fast. The question is, will Apple come up with some thing new to track engagement, that can allow it charge higher pricing for the most important ads.</p>
<p>That would be hard to pull through if Apple takes the &#8220;ban analytics&#8221; high ground.</p>
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		<title>By: John Koetsier</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2010/05/the_roi_of_iads_-_a_lot_of_unanswered_questions.php#comment-2160</link>
		<dc:creator>John Koetsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Smart stuff from a guy who thinks &quot;alot&quot; is a word.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seriously: great piece. Looking forward to see what Apple unveils and what advertisers do with the capabilities. If they continue on the system past the first launch, we know something&#039;s working.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart stuff from a guy who thinks &#8220;alot&#8221; is a word.</p>
<p>Seriously: great piece. Looking forward to see what Apple unveils and what advertisers do with the capabilities. If they continue on the system past the first launch, we know something&#8217;s working.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rundle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think your estimated 1% CTR (tap-through rate?) is way too low. The new format coupled with Apple-designed creative will drive engagement at the beginning, probably upwards of 5% CTR and then tailing off towards 2-3%.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These ads will be persistent on the app&#039;s screen at all times and users will trust them not to exit the app like other ads. Because of this I can see people tapping just to see what the creative is like because they&#039;re intrigued and aren&#039;t worried that they&#039;ll be jettisoned out of the app their using.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your estimated 1% CTR (tap-through rate?) is way too low. The new format coupled with Apple-designed creative will drive engagement at the beginning, probably upwards of 5% CTR and then tailing off towards 2-3%.</p>
<p>These ads will be persistent on the app&#8217;s screen at all times and users will trust them not to exit the app like other ads. Because of this I can see people tapping just to see what the creative is like because they&#8217;re intrigued and aren&#8217;t worried that they&#8217;ll be jettisoned out of the app their using.</p>
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		<title>By: ivv</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All excellent points. As far as I know, the inventory is &quot;blind&quot;, which means you don&#039;t get to pick the apps for your mix.  It&#039;s not an ideal arrangement for the advertiser, but in many cases I can be just as happy with putting my ad for, say, a camera on, say, Bejeweled, if the person also has ProCamera and other photo apps. Ideally, we&#039;d also know if someone is an active user of those apps, but I don&#039;t know if we ever will.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You also should be able to get to a lot of demo attributes by looking at someone&#039;s iTunes purchases and music, but that&#039;s just my speculation.   &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is the whole thing worth it?  In the long term, it&#039;s all math.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All excellent points. As far as I know, the inventory is &#8220;blind&#8221;, which means you don&#8217;t get to pick the apps for your mix.  It&#8217;s not an ideal arrangement for the advertiser, but in many cases I can be just as happy with putting my ad for, say, a camera on, say, Bejeweled, if the person also has ProCamera and other photo apps. Ideally, we&#8217;d also know if someone is an active user of those apps, but I don&#8217;t know if we ever will.  </p>
<p>You also should be able to get to a lot of demo attributes by looking at someone&#8217;s iTunes purchases and music, but that&#8217;s just my speculation.   </p>
<p>Is the whole thing worth it?  In the long term, it&#8217;s all math.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Ver Ploeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Ver Ploeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great Analysis.  I completely agree with the conclusions, which I would crassly summarize as:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re an agency looking to spend someone else&#039;s money on something splashy, iAds are going to be insanely great.  If your advertising budget has to actually produce more sales than it costs, there are better avenues.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An important part of the math is the click through rate.  I agree that 1% is reasonable assumption at the outset, but I would be surprised if it were above 0.1% six months after launch, as people become trained to ignore the new ad units.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Analysis.  I completely agree with the conclusions, which I would crassly summarize as:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re an agency looking to spend someone else&#8217;s money on something splashy, iAds are going to be insanely great.  If your advertising budget has to actually produce more sales than it costs, there are better avenues.</p>
<p>An important part of the math is the click through rate.  I agree that 1% is reasonable assumption at the outset, but I would be surprised if it were above 0.1% six months after launch, as people become trained to ignore the new ad units.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Pruneau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Pruneau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post!&lt;br /&gt;
Really appreciate the granular detail on pricing and Apple&#039;s desire to control the ad ecosystem.&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting, if Apple now owns the delivery channel, the devices, and the content creation for and advertiser, what value does and advertising agency bring to the table?&lt;br /&gt;
Seems to me their contribution is no longer required.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!<br />
Really appreciate the granular detail on pricing and Apple&#8217;s desire to control the ad ecosystem.<br />
Interesting, if Apple now owns the delivery channel, the devices, and the content creation for and advertiser, what value does and advertising agency bring to the table?<br />
Seems to me their contribution is no longer required.</p>
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