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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
With all respect, methinks Twitter&#039;s attempt at suggestions are complete #fail s.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twitter is about PEOPLE. Almost every single suggestion this service makes is an organization of some sort.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I want to find interesting follows in science, the last things I want to be inundated with are newsfeeds or pointers to captive blog posts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This system shows no insight whatsoever as to what *people* are interesting to follow in any given subject area.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry. #Twitterfail .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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With all respect, methinks Twitter&#8217;s attempt at suggestions are complete #fail s.</p>
<p>Twitter is about PEOPLE. Almost every single suggestion this service makes is an organization of some sort.</p>
<p>If I want to find interesting follows in science, the last things I want to be inundated with are newsfeeds or pointers to captive blog posts.</p>
<p>This system shows no insight whatsoever as to what *people* are interesting to follow in any given subject area.</p>
<p>Sorry. #Twitterfail .</p>
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		<title>By: Norbert Mayer-Wittmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norbert Mayer-Wittmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John, R U kidding me? This is an epic fail of a post :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How much did you get paid to write that? -- and who paid? Eric Schmidt? Bill Gates? (check the technology suggested users list -- and/or see &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.net.in/did-billgates-ericschmidt-pay-more-than-leola&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://english.net.in/did-billgates-ericschmidt-pay-more-than-leola&lt;/a&gt; ... and more like it in my @nmw twitter stream)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You say &quot;if the algorithms they&#039;ve cooked up prove robust&quot; -- well, I think I have just &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;disproven&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; that hypothesis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The so called &quot;algorithm&quot; for Twitter SUL is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; an &lt;i&gt;algorithm&lt;/i&gt;  -- unless you call @ev&#039;s + @biz&#039;s hand-picked chums an algorithm (and that seems to be quite a stretch).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would say the case is closed with Twitter&#039;s SUL -- it&#039;s not &quot;game over&quot; for twitter yet, but the poor and misguided management reeks of writing on the wall.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:&#124; nmw&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, R U kidding me? This is an epic fail of a post <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How much did you get paid to write that? &#8212; and who paid? Eric Schmidt? Bill Gates? (check the technology suggested users list &#8212; and/or see <a href="http://english.net.in/did-billgates-ericschmidt-pay-more-than-leola" rel="nofollow">http://english.net.in/did-billgates-ericschmidt-pay-more-than-leola</a> &#8230; and more like it in my @nmw twitter stream)</p>
<p>You say &#8220;if the algorithms they&#8217;ve cooked up prove robust&#8221; &#8212; well, I think I have just <b><i>disproven</i></b> that hypothesis.</p>
<p>The so called &#8220;algorithm&#8221; for Twitter SUL is <i>not</i> an <i>algorithm</i>  &#8212; unless you call @ev&#8217;s + @biz&#8217;s hand-picked chums an algorithm (and that seems to be quite a stretch).</p>
<p>I would say the case is closed with Twitter&#8217;s SUL &#8212; it&#8217;s not &#8220;game over&#8221; for twitter yet, but the poor and misguided management reeks of writing on the wall.</p>
<p> <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' />  nmw</p>
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		<title>By: Dominique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ve build an algorithm to address similar problems for blogs (mapping communities) and it works pretty well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I doubt Twitter will solve this by just asking for self declared interests. This is a very poor signal, very static and many users will game the system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To make this work one has to mix:&lt;br /&gt;
1- topical analytics (i.e based on what I&#039;m writing, here are my centers of interest) - lots of fresh and deep content here.&lt;br /&gt;
2- topology analytics ( who am I already connected to)&lt;br /&gt;
3- style and community codes ( ! we&#039;ve a patent pending on this)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twitter has very little material for 1) -  (140 characters is not much ... but many users add a link to their site which brings lots of content to mine)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twitter should be the king of 2... but it only works as people start to connect so no use for newbies&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for 3, well. I doubt the 140 char leaves enough room for expression of style and community codes. Same tactic like 1) could work, but only for the people that publish.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve build an algorithm to address similar problems for blogs (mapping communities) and it works pretty well.</p>
<p>I doubt Twitter will solve this by just asking for self declared interests. This is a very poor signal, very static and many users will game the system.</p>
<p>To make this work one has to mix:<br />
1- topical analytics (i.e based on what I&#8217;m writing, here are my centers of interest) &#8211; lots of fresh and deep content here.<br />
2- topology analytics ( who am I already connected to)<br />
3- style and community codes ( ! we&#8217;ve a patent pending on this)</p>
<p>Twitter has very little material for 1) &#8211;  (140 characters is not much &#8230; but many users add a link to their site which brings lots of content to mine)</p>
<p>Twitter should be the king of 2&#8230; but it only works as people start to connect so no use for newbies</p>
<p>As for 3, well. I doubt the 140 char leaves enough room for expression of style and community codes. Same tactic like 1) could work, but only for the people that publish.</p>
<p>Best</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you for informing me of this. It certainly makes sense for newbies to Twitter...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope you have a rocking year!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Franchise King®&lt;br /&gt;
Joel Libava&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>Thank you for informing me of this. It certainly makes sense for newbies to Twitter&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope you have a rocking year!</p>
<p>The Franchise King®<br />
Joel Libava</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John, unfortunately this only solves 25% of the problems with the suggested user list. It still is closed, opaque, and incomplete. Here&#039;s a blog about why I say that: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/8cZYeV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/8cZYeV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, unfortunately this only solves 25% of the problems with the suggested user list. It still is closed, opaque, and incomplete. Here&#8217;s a blog about why I say that: <a href="http://bit.ly/8cZYeV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8cZYeV</a></p>
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