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		<title>By: haber</title>
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		<dc:creator>haber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would do this next step before attempting to erect the house. I would find a forum, a blog, or chatroom, and search for any experiential knowledge of building a tree house. Why not ask my own cybersocial group?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would do this next step before attempting to erect the house. I would find a forum, a blog, or chatroom, and search for any experiential knowledge of building a tree house. Why not ask my own cybersocial group?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Foxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Foxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like social media but I will always go to Google when I want an answer. It&#039;s great that I have connections on Facebook and Twitter that can help me with a real-time answer to a question I have but when the question is about a complex topic then I&#039;ll want to get an informative article from an authority site pulled back by Google. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It would be great to see how the development of real-time and traditional search will merge in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Karl  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like social media but I will always go to Google when I want an answer. It&#8217;s great that I have connections on Facebook and Twitter that can help me with a real-time answer to a question I have but when the question is about a complex topic then I&#8217;ll want to get an informative article from an authority site pulled back by Google. </p>
<p>It would be great to see how the development of real-time and traditional search will merge in the future.</p>
<p>Karl  </p>
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		<title>By: Personal PPC Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personal PPC Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think anyone is equating the two.  One is like non-fiction, and the other is like an auto-biography.  Both have their merits, it&#039;s just a matter of melding the two.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is equating the two.  One is like non-fiction, and the other is like an auto-biography.  Both have their merits, it&#8217;s just a matter of melding the two.</p>
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		<title>By: jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;it is just totally hackish for one to equate Google&#039;s search engine with Twitter&#039;s drivel or pictures of little suzy on Facebook. Idiotic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is just totally hackish for one to equate Google&#8217;s search engine with Twitter&#8217;s drivel or pictures of little suzy on Facebook. Idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Personal PPC Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personal PPC Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For argument&#039;s sake, let us believe that I am motivated to build a treehouse.  Standard houses just don&#039;t cut it for me and I am compelled to abide in the canopy of my evergreen forest.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have downloaded a pdf file from a DoItYourself blog, that was on the first page of Google SERPS, so I trust this site.  Why do I trust this site?  Because it was on the first page of a Google search.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now if I have any grey hairs, I would do this next step before attempting to erect the house.  I would find a forum, a blog, or chatroom, and search for any experiential knowledge of building a tree house.  Why not ask my own cybersocial group?  Because I want a network of DIY minded people, not my buddy Jim who is &quot;Hating rush hour traffic, Arrgggh!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is fair to assume however that if my cybersocial group is large enough, that I am likely to find at least one person with a working knowledge of treehouses.  But why waist that time waiting for a response, when that personalized knowledge has already been archived?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So how do we find it?  Well this is what I just did in the past five minutes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I searched for &#039;diy forum&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Copied the second forum in the results which was &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.doityourself.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://forum.doityourself.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did a new search for &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;site:http://forum.doityourself.com treehouse&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It returned 60 pages of wonderful, interactive, experiential knowledge.  And this was only 1 site using only 1 term.  You could also search &#039;diy chatrom&#039; or &#039;contruction forum&#039; or try any of the other 9 sites that came back from &#039;diy forum&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I think most people do not know how to do this.  So the answer would be some type of SE that solely searches through forums, chatrooms, etc.  Either that or make &#039;Internet Search&#039; as fundamental as Algebra. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For argument&#8217;s sake, let us believe that I am motivated to build a treehouse.  Standard houses just don&#8217;t cut it for me and I am compelled to abide in the canopy of my evergreen forest.  </p>
<p>I have downloaded a pdf file from a DoItYourself blog, that was on the first page of Google SERPS, so I trust this site.  Why do I trust this site?  Because it was on the first page of a Google search.</p>
<p>Now if I have any grey hairs, I would do this next step before attempting to erect the house.  I would find a forum, a blog, or chatroom, and search for any experiential knowledge of building a tree house.  Why not ask my own cybersocial group?  Because I want a network of DIY minded people, not my buddy Jim who is &#8220;Hating rush hour traffic, Arrgggh!&#8221;</p>
<p>It is fair to assume however that if my cybersocial group is large enough, that I am likely to find at least one person with a working knowledge of treehouses.  But why waist that time waiting for a response, when that personalized knowledge has already been archived?</p>
<p>So how do we find it?  Well this is what I just did in the past five minutes.</p>
<p>I searched for &#8216;diy forum&#8217;.</p>
<p>Copied the second forum in the results which was <a href="http://forum.doityourself.com" rel="nofollow">http://forum.doityourself.com</a></p>
<p>Did a new search for <br />
&#8216;site:<a href="http://forum.doityourself.com" rel="nofollow">http://forum.doityourself.com</a> treehouse&#8217;</p>
<p>It returned 60 pages of wonderful, interactive, experiential knowledge.  And this was only 1 site using only 1 term.  You could also search &#8216;diy chatrom&#8217; or &#8216;contruction forum&#8217; or try any of the other 9 sites that came back from &#8216;diy forum&#8217;.</p>
<p>But I think most people do not know how to do this.  So the answer would be some type of SE that solely searches through forums, chatrooms, etc.  Either that or make &#8216;Internet Search&#8217; as fundamental as Algebra. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Working for a company that offers real-time social media search at the Enterprise level, I really have to wonder how effective Twitter and Facebook will be in meeting users&#039; requirements.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the experiences will be less than satisfying.  Consumer-ready real-time social media search will be much more complicated than simply showing people who said what in the last five minutes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working for a company that offers real-time social media search at the Enterprise level, I really have to wonder how effective Twitter and Facebook will be in meeting users&#8217; requirements.</p>
<p>I think the experiences will be less than satisfying.  Consumer-ready real-time social media search will be much more complicated than simply showing people who said what in the last five minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In our work, we found that when looking for experts in an industrial setting, people prefer those they know (or can connect to through mutual friends) over &#039;identified&#039; experts.  A lot of this is related to the fact that social connections increase the likelihood of response.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1357054.1357223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1357054.1357223&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In relation to Brynn&#039;s point about strangers, clearly there is a need for more research on credibility and trust of unknown sources.  For example, some might actually trust newspapers over blogs.  We&#039;ve tried to get at some of this using the concept of &#039;signals&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518701.1518713&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518701.1518713&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These publications are available from my website as well &lt;a href=&quot;http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/research_people.nsf/pages/sadat.index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/research_people.nsf/pages/sadat.index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our work, we found that when looking for experts in an industrial setting, people prefer those they know (or can connect to through mutual friends) over &#8216;identified&#8217; experts.  A lot of this is related to the fact that social connections increase the likelihood of response.</p>
<p><a href="http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1357054.1357223" rel="nofollow">http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1357054.1357223</a></p>
<p>In relation to Brynn&#8217;s point about strangers, clearly there is a need for more research on credibility and trust of unknown sources.  For example, some might actually trust newspapers over blogs.  We&#8217;ve tried to get at some of this using the concept of &#8216;signals&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518701.1518713" rel="nofollow">http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518701.1518713</a></p>
<p>These publications are available from my website as well <a href="http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/research_people.nsf/pages/sadat.index.html" rel="nofollow">http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/research_people.nsf/pages/sadat.index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Haber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But trust can be established even among strangers. I might actually trust a random blog over a national newspaper depending on the topic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But trust can be established even among strangers. I might actually trust a random blog over a national newspaper depending on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some data about this specific topic by Nielsen&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Social Media: The Next Great Gateway for Content Discovery?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/social-media-the-next-great-gateway-for-content-discovery/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/social-media-the-next-great-gateway-for-content-discovery/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some data about this specific topic by Nielsen</p>
<p>Social Media: The Next Great Gateway for Content Discovery?</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/social-media-the-next-great-gateway-for-content-discovery/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/social-media-the-next-great-gateway-for-content-discovery/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To both Nora and Craig&#039;s points: true. But there is such a wide spectrum of information needs in search and even a hidden set of interests/knowledge from among your social network — that it seems silly not to try to merge them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, there will always be obscure searches where no one in your social network will know. &quot;I heard of this &quot;kuksa&quot; cup from Lapland. Where can I buy one?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But trust can be established even among strangers. I  might actually trust a random blog over a national newspaper depending on the topic. Blogs have character and identities (of the real people behind them) — this I often trust more than a newspaper (or professional journalism) since I believe many journalists are just doing a &quot;job&quot; which is often persuaded by editors&#039; and stakeholders&#039; opinions. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It really depends. But since there is vast people knowledge and tacit knowledge available in our social networks (and the conversations are often more substantive than &quot;I like building treehouses too&quot;), I believe search will benefit from trying to exploit these networks in some way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To both Nora and Craig&#8217;s points: true. But there is such a wide spectrum of information needs in search and even a hidden set of interests/knowledge from among your social network — that it seems silly not to try to merge them.</p>
<p>Yes, there will always be obscure searches where no one in your social network will know. &#8220;I heard of this &#8220;kuksa&#8221; cup from Lapland. Where can I buy one?&#8221;</p>
<p>But trust can be established even among strangers. I  might actually trust a random blog over a national newspaper depending on the topic. Blogs have character and identities (of the real people behind them) — this I often trust more than a newspaper (or professional journalism) since I believe many journalists are just doing a &#8220;job&#8221; which is often persuaded by editors&#8217; and stakeholders&#8217; opinions. </p>
<p>It really depends. But since there is vast people knowledge and tacit knowledge available in our social networks (and the conversations are often more substantive than &#8220;I like building treehouses too&#8221;), I believe search will benefit from trying to exploit these networks in some way.</p>
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