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		<title>By: Dale Larson</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/08/i_blew_it_on_facebook.php#comment-3782</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be less yucky if they were combined into one place?  Why doesn&#039;t Facebook just allow us to have both friends and fans on a single page, so our updates go out to both (though we can make selected updates friends only)?  Friends are where we feel a strong mutual connection, fans are where it&#039;s a little more one way, and we can toggle in our news feed whether to read friend updates, fan updates or both. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe some fans will become friends, but the connection will feel more like it does on Twitter.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And then for someone in your situation, you could easily convert friends to fans -- I doubt anyone would feel as much zing from that as simply being unfriended.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wasn&#039;t groups supposed to be the big thing to solve this kind of problem (and more) in a more algorithmic way?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be less yucky if they were combined into one place?  Why doesn&#8217;t Facebook just allow us to have both friends and fans on a single page, so our updates go out to both (though we can make selected updates friends only)?  Friends are where we feel a strong mutual connection, fans are where it&#8217;s a little more one way, and we can toggle in our news feed whether to read friend updates, fan updates or both. </p>
<p>Maybe some fans will become friends, but the connection will feel more like it does on Twitter.  </p>
<p>And then for someone in your situation, you could easily convert friends to fans &#8212; I doubt anyone would feel as much zing from that as simply being unfriended.  </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t groups supposed to be the big thing to solve this kind of problem (and more) in a more algorithmic way?</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be less yucky if they were combined into one place?  Why doesn&#039;t Facebook just allow us to have both friends and fans on a single page, so our updates go out to both (though we can make selected updates friends only)?  Friends are where we feel a strong mutual connection, fans are where it&#039;s a little more one way, and we can toggle in our news feed whether to read friend updates, fan updates or both. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe some fans will become friends, but the connection will feel more like it does on Twitter.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And then for someone in your situation, you could easily convert friends to fans -- I doubt anyone would feel as much zing from that as simply being unfriended.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wasn&#039;t groups supposed to be the big thing to solve this kind of problem (and more) in a more algorithmic way?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be less yucky if they were combined into one place?  Why doesn&#8217;t Facebook just allow us to have both friends and fans on a single page, so our updates go out to both (though we can make selected updates friends only)?  Friends are where we feel a strong mutual connection, fans are where it&#8217;s a little more one way, and we can toggle in our news feed whether to read friend updates, fan updates or both. </p>
<p>Maybe some fans will become friends, but the connection will feel more like it does on Twitter.  </p>
<p>And then for someone in your situation, you could easily convert friends to fans &#8212; I doubt anyone would feel as much zing from that as simply being unfriended.  </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t groups supposed to be the big thing to solve this kind of problem (and more) in a more algorithmic way?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/08/i_blew_it_on_facebook.php#comment-3780</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t do everything yourself - make your 5000 friends do some of the heavy lifting for you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First, bite the bullet and set up a fan page. Even if you don&#039;t think of yourself as a brand, that&#039;s the way that Facebook works.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, send a message to your 5000 friends and tell them to join the fan page in X days.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Third, after x days plus a few have elapsed, start deleting friends unless you recognize the name. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not only does this remove the need for you to migrate everyone, since they&#039;ll migrate themselves, but it also allows you to prune the list somewhat. Perhaps 1000 of the people aren&#039;t even active on Facebook any more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t do everything yourself &#8211; make your 5000 friends do some of the heavy lifting for you.</p>
<p>First, bite the bullet and set up a fan page. Even if you don&#8217;t think of yourself as a brand, that&#8217;s the way that Facebook works.</p>
<p>Second, send a message to your 5000 friends and tell them to join the fan page in X days.</p>
<p>Third, after x days plus a few have elapsed, start deleting friends unless you recognize the name. </p>
<p>Not only does this remove the need for you to migrate everyone, since they&#8217;ll migrate themselves, but it also allows you to prune the list somewhat. Perhaps 1000 of the people aren&#8217;t even active on Facebook any more.</p>
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		<title>By: CD Generation™ Group</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/08/i_blew_it_on_facebook.php#comment-3779</link>
		<dc:creator>CD Generation™ Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While I’m initially a little skeptical of this move, I don’t think it will water down or compromise Facebook’s integrity in the long run. I doubt people who have 200 friends will begin a rush to add 6,000 more simply because a limit isn’t in place. Facebook and Myspace are two completely different cultures. And, given the fact that categorizing, sorting, AND removing friends is exponentially easier to on FB than MS, it’s hard for me to believe that Zuckerberg &amp; Co. will take a negative hit on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I’m initially a little skeptical of this move, I don’t think it will water down or compromise Facebook’s integrity in the long run. I doubt people who have 200 friends will begin a rush to add 6,000 more simply because a limit isn’t in place. Facebook and Myspace are two completely different cultures. And, given the fact that categorizing, sorting, AND removing friends is exponentially easier to on FB than MS, it’s hard for me to believe that Zuckerberg &#038; Co. will take a negative hit on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kmiec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Kmiec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I use a simple approach. I limit myself to 200 connections on Facebook.  I&#039;m at 193 right now.  When I get to 200 and someone wants to friend me I have to decide who I should kick out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Adam&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>I use a simple approach. I limit myself to 200 connections on Facebook.  I&#8217;m at 193 right now.  When I get to 200 and someone wants to friend me I have to decide who I should kick out.</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well if it is supposed that with 5.000 i am an opinion maker and i&#039;making out of this a small business, let me pay a few and do the backup o my contact list and migrate freely on the next platform!. A PR Specialist and an influencer need tools and not to be trapped into a specific space.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if it is supposed that with 5.000 i am an opinion maker and i&#8217;making out of this a small business, let me pay a few and do the backup o my contact list and migrate freely on the next platform!. A PR Specialist and an influencer need tools and not to be trapped into a specific space.</p>
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		<title>By: jordan 6 rings</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/08/i_blew_it_on_facebook.php#comment-3776</link>
		<dc:creator>jordan 6 rings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cool website, like what I have read. Will definitely be back to read again. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool website, like what I have read. Will definitely be back to read again. </p>
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		<title>By: Eliahu Gal-Or</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliahu Gal-Or</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;THIS IS NOT A COMMENT!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you very much John,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;EGO&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS NOT A COMMENT!!!</p>
<p>Thank you very much John,</p>
<p>EGO</p>
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		<title>By: EGO This is not a comment</title>
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		<dc:creator>EGO This is not a comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you very much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;EGO&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much.</p>
<p>EGO</p>
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		<title>By: Eliahu Gal-Or</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliahu Gal-Or</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I politely beg to disagree John,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;5.000 is not enough, everybody knows that a network&#039;s value increases by the squre of its nodes&#039; number, and FB should be competent enought o figure that out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I want to be able to reach, and to be reached by as many people as possible; the ones neither of us want to be reached by have all the skills and tools it takes to smirk at our obsolete and illusory concepts of privacy; and I regularly find in my mailbox messages I have never opened but some unknown eyes have accessed before me, new friends I never invited to join my network but who have &quot;accepted&quot; my FBF request, and more of this kind of stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What bothers me more is the equally idiotic limit on FB 300 groups; I get 10 or more invitations a day from groups which I am interested in, run by people I know in real life or at least should be able to look forward to meeting, and I am forced to ignore them because the alternative is sspending hours wading with FS&#039;s clunky software, like watching paint dry, waiting for data I don&#039;t need to load so I can leave a group I really want to stay in to join the next one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The alternative is, and many do just that, to have multiple accounts and perhaps it can be done when sitting at two or more computers, never in an Internet cafe somewhere else, but yet losing the ability of linking certain people in your network to certain others because the latter are part of a different account, thus missing the key feature of social networking.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As long as I am here please allow me to mention a last, very irritating bug: I am writing a long message to somebody when suddenly a chat window opens, grabs that text continuation and, if I was not looking at the screen and hit return at the sentence&#039;s end, sends it all to an unintended recipient, maybe in a language (s)he is not yet gifted with.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The worst part is that in that process, the whole message I was writing disappears and has to be started from scratch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then there is the bullying part: I am regularly informed by FB itself that they have found x, y or z whom I might know, and often enough I really do; when I send them a FBF request I add the video link:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjD1zsvCH64&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjD1zsvCH64&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;to my interview at Picnic2008 as a verification tool, then I get warnings that according to them I am engaging in spamming behavior and risk account suspension, which would destroy precious and irreplaceable correspondence archives.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why must FB spit in the plate it eats from? Its most precious resource is us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eliahu Gal-Or - the Pizza Rebbe&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;pizzarebbe@gmail.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I politely beg to disagree John,</p>
<p>5.000 is not enough, everybody knows that a network&#8217;s value increases by the squre of its nodes&#8217; number, and FB should be competent enought o figure that out.</p>
<p>I want to be able to reach, and to be reached by as many people as possible; the ones neither of us want to be reached by have all the skills and tools it takes to smirk at our obsolete and illusory concepts of privacy; and I regularly find in my mailbox messages I have never opened but some unknown eyes have accessed before me, new friends I never invited to join my network but who have &#8220;accepted&#8221; my FBF request, and more of this kind of stuff.</p>
<p>What bothers me more is the equally idiotic limit on FB 300 groups; I get 10 or more invitations a day from groups which I am interested in, run by people I know in real life or at least should be able to look forward to meeting, and I am forced to ignore them because the alternative is sspending hours wading with FS&#8217;s clunky software, like watching paint dry, waiting for data I don&#8217;t need to load so I can leave a group I really want to stay in to join the next one.</p>
<p>The alternative is, and many do just that, to have multiple accounts and perhaps it can be done when sitting at two or more computers, never in an Internet cafe somewhere else, but yet losing the ability of linking certain people in your network to certain others because the latter are part of a different account, thus missing the key feature of social networking.</p>
<p>As long as I am here please allow me to mention a last, very irritating bug: I am writing a long message to somebody when suddenly a chat window opens, grabs that text continuation and, if I was not looking at the screen and hit return at the sentence&#8217;s end, sends it all to an unintended recipient, maybe in a language (s)he is not yet gifted with.</p>
<p>The worst part is that in that process, the whole message I was writing disappears and has to be started from scratch.</p>
<p>Then there is the bullying part: I am regularly informed by FB itself that they have found x, y or z whom I might know, and often enough I really do; when I send them a FBF request I add the video link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjD1zsvCH64" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjD1zsvCH64</a> </p>
<p>to my interview at Picnic2008 as a verification tool, then I get warnings that according to them I am engaging in spamming behavior and risk account suspension, which would destroy precious and irreplaceable correspondence archives.</p>
<p>Why must FB spit in the plate it eats from? Its most precious resource is us.</p>
<p>Eliahu Gal-Or &#8211; the Pizza Rebbe</p>
<p><a href="mailto:pizzarebbe@gmail.com">pizzarebbe@gmail.com</a></p>
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