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		<title>By: Andrew S</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5267</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also note that Google hasn&#039;t yet incorporated search suggestions into the search box on their SERP, while Yahoo&#039;s had it (search assist) for over a year.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d say that is the #1 advantage of Yahoo over Google search.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also note that Google hasn&#8217;t yet incorporated search suggestions into the search box on their SERP, while Yahoo&#8217;s had it (search assist) for over a year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that is the #1 advantage of Yahoo over Google search.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5266</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fair enough, Patrick.  I apologize for overreacting :-)  I stand corrected.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, Patrick.  I apologize for overreacting <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JG, relax. I should have been more careful with my phrasing. I do understand the importance of the issue, and I agree that you shouldn&#039;t blame the user. You&#039;re absolutely right that when you do the exact search that John did, it should tell you exactly what you want to know. So I agree, that Yahoo wins this one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My post was really intended to point out what I thought John was omitting: that Google offers more relevant information regarding sports games than Yahoo does.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So Yahoo tells you when one game starts (and, come on, this is only a minor hiccup on Google&#039;s part). But Google tells you when every single game starts, and what the score was for the previous game, for almost all major sports, even European soccer leagues. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re out of luck with Yahoo. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I watch Arsenal games on most weekends, and I know that if I type in Arsenal FC I&#039;ll see when the next game starts. So naturally when I wanted to know when the super bowl started, I typed in a team name. And I got what I wanted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;John was only painting part of the picture. So yes Yahoo might be better for the super bowl, but Google is more consistent for sports games in general.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Actually, Yahoo offers a lot of cool sports features, especially for soccer, but I&#039;m talking specifically about SERPs). &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JG, relax. I should have been more careful with my phrasing. I do understand the importance of the issue, and I agree that you shouldn&#8217;t blame the user. You&#8217;re absolutely right that when you do the exact search that John did, it should tell you exactly what you want to know. So I agree, that Yahoo wins this one.</p>
<p>My post was really intended to point out what I thought John was omitting: that Google offers more relevant information regarding sports games than Yahoo does.</p>
<p>So Yahoo tells you when one game starts (and, come on, this is only a minor hiccup on Google&#8217;s part). But Google tells you when every single game starts, and what the score was for the previous game, for almost all major sports, even European soccer leagues. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re out of luck with Yahoo. </p>
<p>I watch Arsenal games on most weekends, and I know that if I type in Arsenal FC I&#8217;ll see when the next game starts. So naturally when I wanted to know when the super bowl started, I typed in a team name. And I got what I wanted.</p>
<p>John was only painting part of the picture. So yes Yahoo might be better for the super bowl, but Google is more consistent for sports games in general.</p>
<p>(Actually, Yahoo offers a lot of cool sports features, especially for soccer, but I&#8217;m talking specifically about SERPs). </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5264</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just changed my default search engine to yahoo because I think its getting better. and also because google has way too much market share. hopefully more SEMers will follow suit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just changed my default search engine to yahoo because I think its getting better. and also because google has way too much market share. hopefully more SEMers will follow suit.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5263</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I disagree. Google wins. Or at least it&#039;s a much closer race than you suggest. The problem is that you&#039;re searching for the wrong term.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can I, just for the record, state that this attitude galls me?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What did you say, again, Patrick?  &quot;&lt;i&gt;You&#039;re searching for the wrong term&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So the solution to this problem, Patrick, is to blame the user?  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is what we have search engines for.  We have them so help us not only find information, but find out how to ask the right questions.  It&#039;s the search engine&#039;s job to say, &quot;Did you mean to search for [Arizona Cardinals]&quot;, if that really is the best query to use to find super bowl start times.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And you call this approach, which is to blame the user, a &quot;more useful and durable&quot; approach?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unbelievable.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vish makes the same point that I&#039;m making.  I totally agree.  It&#039;s brand, and nothing else, that is causing you to believe that it&#039;s the user&#039;s fault, and not Google&#039;s.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I&#039;m sure Google is not trying in the least bit to correct that perception.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Me?  I call that approach useless.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I disagree. Google wins. Or at least it&#8217;s a much closer race than you suggest. The problem is that you&#8217;re searching for the wrong term.</i></p>
<p>Can I, just for the record, state that this attitude galls me?</p>
<p>What did you say, again, Patrick?  &#8220;<i>You&#8217;re searching for the wrong term</i>&#8220;.  </p>
<p>So the solution to this problem, Patrick, is to blame the user?  </p>
<p>This is what we have search engines for.  We have them so help us not only find information, but find out how to ask the right questions.  It&#8217;s the search engine&#8217;s job to say, &#8220;Did you mean to search for [Arizona Cardinals]&#8220;, if that really is the best query to use to find super bowl start times.</p>
<p>And you call this approach, which is to blame the user, a &#8220;more useful and durable&#8221; approach?</p>
<p>Unbelievable.  </p>
<p>Vish makes the same point that I&#8217;m making.  I totally agree.  It&#8217;s brand, and nothing else, that is causing you to believe that it&#8217;s the user&#8217;s fault, and not Google&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure Google is not trying in the least bit to correct that perception.</p>
<p>Me?  I call that approach useless.</p>
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		<title>By: vish</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5262</link>
		<dc:creator>vish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wow the power of a good brand is awesome.  if google didn&#039;t do it, then the user is using the search engine incorrectly.  if google did it, then of course it was right... give credit where its due...  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow the power of a good brand is awesome.  if google didn&#8217;t do it, then the user is using the search engine incorrectly.  if google did it, then of course it was right&#8230; give credit where its due&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: OB</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5261</link>
		<dc:creator>OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;altho its passed - via google i now get a yahoo answers link as top result.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;again - yahoo wins altho via a different method&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>altho its passed &#8211; via google i now get a yahoo answers link as top result.</p>
<p>again &#8211; yahoo wins altho via a different method</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dillon</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2009/02/yahoo_wins_this_one.php#comment-5260</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I disagree. Google wins. Or at least it&#039;s a much closer race than you suggest. The problem is that you&#039;re searching for the wrong term. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you searched for &quot;Arizona Cardinals&quot; or &quot;Pittsburgh Steelers&quot; (before the game) it told you when the next game (i.e. the Super Bowl) would start.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you search for those terms now, it tells you the score of the game.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So maybe there&#039;s a learning curve here, but I&#039;m not a huge sports fan and I realized this rather quickly. I am a soccer fan (Arsenal-supporter) and Google even has listings for EPL and La Liga games (e.g. search: &quot;FC Barcelona&quot;). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google&#039;s approach seems much more useful and durable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. Google wins. Or at least it&#8217;s a much closer race than you suggest. The problem is that you&#8217;re searching for the wrong term. </p>
<p>If you searched for &#8220;Arizona Cardinals&#8221; or &#8220;Pittsburgh Steelers&#8221; (before the game) it told you when the next game (i.e. the Super Bowl) would start.</p>
<p>If you search for those terms now, it tells you the score of the game.</p>
<p>So maybe there&#8217;s a learning curve here, but I&#8217;m not a huge sports fan and I realized this rather quickly. I am a soccer fan (Arsenal-supporter) and Google even has listings for EPL and La Liga games (e.g. search: &#8220;FC Barcelona&#8221;). </p>
<p>Google&#8217;s approach seems much more useful and durable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamal Jain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamal Jain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John Battelle, you are the leader in following the search domain. I do not think you need to be marketed with new search innovations coming in.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;May be you want to write a post, on how big three have started differentiating from each other. You just found only one example. The days when one was uniformly better than others are over.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Battelle, you are the leader in following the search domain. I do not think you need to be marketed with new search innovations coming in.</p>
<p>May be you want to write a post, on how big three have started differentiating from each other. You just found only one example. The days when one was uniformly better than others are over.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory O&apos;Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory O&apos;Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(In response to the comments above:) Sure, it&#039;s not going to revolutionize the search industry, but it is good to see Yahoo! adding features that people actually want in a search engine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remember when Google added features like the ability to search for a UPS tracking number and have it take you directly to the UPS tracking page, and it made me use Google even more. It&#039;s just the idea that in addition to finding obscure answers to some random question, you can also ask the simple questions and get quick and easy answers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With quick answers like that, Google (and apparently now Yahoo!) become the final destination for answers to all of your questions, rather than just the starting point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(In response to the comments above:) Sure, it&#8217;s not going to revolutionize the search industry, but it is good to see Yahoo! adding features that people actually want in a search engine.</p>
<p>I remember when Google added features like the ability to search for a UPS tracking number and have it take you directly to the UPS tracking page, and it made me use Google even more. It&#8217;s just the idea that in addition to finding obscure answers to some random question, you can also ask the simple questions and get quick and easy answers.</p>
<p>With quick answers like that, Google (and apparently now Yahoo!) become the final destination for answers to all of your questions, rather than just the starting point.</p>
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