Comments on: From Static to Realtime Search http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=from_static_to_realtime_search Thoughts on the intersection of search, media, technology, and more. Tue, 21 May 2013 00:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: brett1211 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5833 brett1211 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:52:21 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5833 <p>great and well written post. I am particularly interested int the discussion you open at the end about our digital footprint. I am so excited about how the coming LBS revolution will increase our passive data collection abilities "in the field" so to speak. I've written about the opportunities </p> <p><a href="http://bit.ly/hWi6A" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hWi6A</a></p> <p>and challenges </p> <p><a href="http://bit.ly/QzAMY" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/QzAMY</a></p> <p>thanks again,<br /> b</p> great and well written post. I am particularly interested int the discussion you open at the end about our digital footprint. I am so excited about how the coming LBS revolution will increase our passive data collection abilities “in the field” so to speak. I’ve written about the opportunities

http://bit.ly/hWi6A

and challenges

http://bit.ly/QzAMY

thanks again,
b

]]> By: TimTipper http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5832 TimTipper Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:26:12 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5832 <p>YOU NAILED IT!!!!<br /> I was just looking at Twitscoop tonight and thinking, "what the hell do you do with this application that can be USEFUL?" and came up with the idea of a "realtime" search function. Now the next thing will be to make the "buzzing" the search engine of the future.</p> <p>Hey! If any programmer out there figures out how to do it, give me a penny per user, I'll be happy with that.</p> YOU NAILED IT!!!!
I was just looking at Twitscoop tonight and thinking, “what the hell do you do with this application that can be USEFUL?” and came up with the idea of a “realtime” search function. Now the next thing will be to make the “buzzing” the search engine of the future.

Hey! If any programmer out there figures out how to do it, give me a penny per user, I’ll be happy with that.

]]> By: nmw http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5831 nmw Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:39:10 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5831 <p>Hi John,</p> <p>I am very much on the fence regarding whether online interaction should be centrally located or distributed (the "power" of the Internet is its distributed nature, right? that's one thing that GOOG fans don't seem to understand: Google's centralization is a big media behavior, going against what the Internet was conceived to be)</p> <p>At any rate, in this case I am satisfied having posted my reply on my own website, especially as it appears to be more reliable than looksmart's.</p> <p>In the future, whenever I post on Looksmart's website, I will try to remember to create a screenshot of whatever happens (in this case it said something like the post would be reviewed by the blog owner).</p> <p>Thanks for further investigating this.</p> <p>:) nmw</p> <p>ps/btw: I actually think that "moderation by blog owner" is a somewhat dated (or <i>outdated</i>) phenomenon -- digg has taught us differently... (at least a little bit -- in this vein, I am very excited about the prospects for the IntenseDebate cloud app that I have installed @ <a href="http://conversative.net/blog" rel="nofollow">http://conversative.net/blog</a> :)</p> Hi John,

I am very much on the fence regarding whether online interaction should be centrally located or distributed (the “power” of the Internet is its distributed nature, right? that’s one thing that GOOG fans don’t seem to understand: Google’s centralization is a big media behavior, going against what the Internet was conceived to be)

At any rate, in this case I am satisfied having posted my reply on my own website, especially as it appears to be more reliable than looksmart’s.

In the future, whenever I post on Looksmart’s website, I will try to remember to create a screenshot of whatever happens (in this case it said something like the post would be reviewed by the blog owner).

Thanks for further investigating this.

:) nmw

ps/btw: I actually think that “moderation by blog owner” is a somewhat dated (or outdated) phenomenon — digg has taught us differently… (at least a little bit — in this vein, I am very excited about the prospects for the IntenseDebate cloud app that I have installed @ http://conversative.net/blog :)

]]> By: Robert Scoble http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5830 Robert Scoble Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:54:28 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5830 <p>I answered this on your other post as well about why Google should be worried about Twitter, but you really need to see what's going on in FriendFeed more to grok the real time nature of the web. Twitter is only a small part of this.</p> <p>Look at my realtime feed here for just a small taste -- that's 4,800 hand-picked people being displayed in real time: <a href="http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/friends/realtime" rel="nofollow">http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/friends/realtime</a></p> I answered this on your other post as well about why Google should be worried about Twitter, but you really need to see what’s going on in FriendFeed more to grok the real time nature of the web. Twitter is only a small part of this.

Look at my realtime feed here for just a small taste — that’s 4,800 hand-picked people being displayed in real time: http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/friends/realtime

]]> By: John Battelle http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5829 John Battelle Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:57:41 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5829 <p>@nmw pls repost your comment - if you want, on the LSmart site. For some reason, it was not recieved, I am told. I think the system must have eaten it. No one on that site was ignoring it!</p> @nmw pls repost your comment – if you want, on the LSmart site. For some reason, it was not recieved, I am told. I think the system must have eaten it. No one on that site was ignoring it!

]]> By: Jonathan Mendez http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5828 Jonathan Mendez Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:12:56 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5828 <p>People are twittering "what are you doing?" however they seem to be asking themselves that question.</p> <p>Yes, marketers would love that ambient data but that is a backwards approach to search. I don't see the usefulness or appetite for people to query about what their friends are doing - especially when its already being delivered to them.</p> <p>Search solves a problem for people. Marketers just hop on board. Turning that train around is not a good idea.</p> People are twittering “what are you doing?” however they seem to be asking themselves that question.

Yes, marketers would love that ambient data but that is a backwards approach to search. I don’t see the usefulness or appetite for people to query about what their friends are doing – especially when its already being delivered to them.

Search solves a problem for people. Marketers just hop on board. Turning that train around is not a good idea.

]]> By: nmw http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5827 nmw Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:31:16 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5827 <p>I see -- I guess that might be frustrating situation to be in.</p> <p>Corporate blogs are still somewhat of an anomaly IMHO -- I guess you are perhaps in a good position to judge how to integrate old and new media (seeing as you have -- unlike myself -- a lot of experience in "the other side of the fence").</p> <p>Still, it's a little surprising that the people at looksmart seem to have such a poor sense of online media.</p> <p>Glad to hear you explicitly distance yourself from the oversight.</p> <p>:) nmw</p> I see — I guess that might be frustrating situation to be in.

Corporate blogs are still somewhat of an anomaly IMHO — I guess you are perhaps in a good position to judge how to integrate old and new media (seeing as you have — unlike myself — a lot of experience in “the other side of the fence”).

Still, it’s a little surprising that the people at looksmart seem to have such a poor sense of online media.

Glad to hear you explicitly distance yourself from the oversight.

:) nmw

]]> By: John Battelle http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5826 John Battelle Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:56:16 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5826 <p>Hey @nmw your comment is probably in a moderation queue, I don't run that queue, the folks at the site do (I wrote that for Looksmart's site). Nothing personal intended at all! </p> Hey @nmw your comment is probably in a moderation queue, I don’t run that queue, the folks at the site do (I wrote that for Looksmart’s site). Nothing personal intended at all!

]]> By: nmw http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5825 nmw Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:02:47 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5825 <p>JG,</p> <p>I think we agree more than we disagree.</p> <p>My main point is that domain names are the <i>only</i> <b>reliable</b> metatags on the web.</p> <p>:) nmw</p> JG,

I think we agree more than we disagree.

My main point is that domain names are the only reliable metatags on the web.

:) nmw

]]> By: JG http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5824 JG Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:45:12 +0000 http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/12/from_static_to_realtime_search.php#comment-5824 <p>nmw: I agree with you that everything is in flux. Heraclitus and all.</p> <p>But while I do not share the technical utopian idealism of most of those in the Web 2.0 community, I also think that things are not so hopeless that our only choice is to throw up our arms and give up. "Gizmo"-wise, technologies such as online relevance feedback was created (and integrated into document filtering) to deal with both shifting user information need as well as shifts in language itself. And it really does work. </p> nmw: I agree with you that everything is in flux. Heraclitus and all.

But while I do not share the technical utopian idealism of most of those in the Web 2.0 community, I also think that things are not so hopeless that our only choice is to throw up our arms and give up. “Gizmo”-wise, technologies such as online relevance feedback was created (and integrated into document filtering) to deal with both shifting user information need as well as shifts in language itself. And it really does work.

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