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	<title>Comments on: Twitter Bios Should Not Be NoFollowed! Updated: Whuffie Me</title>
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		<title>By: some guy</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/09/twitter_bios_should_not_be_nofollowed_updated_whuffie_me.php#comment-6654</link>
		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If that&#039;s your opinion, maybe you could do something regarding a little known website called boingboing.net where the user:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) has to sign up to comment&lt;br /&gt;
2) in the comments, the link points to a profile in boingboing.net, not his/her own website&lt;br /&gt;
3) in the profile page, the link towards the commenter&#039;s own website is nofollowed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I mean, that&#039;s a triple hoop to jump through. I understand the nofollow part, but at lest, point towards the website, not the profile page! Leaving intelligent comments in others&#039; blogs is a time-honored way of making oneself known in the blogosphere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s your opinion, maybe you could do something regarding a little known website called boingboing.net where the user:</p>
<p>1) has to sign up to comment<br />
2) in the comments, the link points to a profile in boingboing.net, not his/her own website<br />
3) in the profile page, the link towards the commenter&#8217;s own website is nofollowed.</p>
<p>I mean, that&#8217;s a triple hoop to jump through. I understand the nofollow part, but at lest, point towards the website, not the profile page! Leaving intelligent comments in others&#8217; blogs is a time-honored way of making oneself known in the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: thai seo</title>
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		<dc:creator>thai seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, I read this subject at matt cutts before and across to read your blog. I&#039;m not fan of Twitter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I read this subject at matt cutts before and across to read your blog. I&#8217;m not fan of Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;re: update&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;John, this is basically a trade-off between focusing/targeting a community for a particular type of interaction (examples might include CCC, the web2summit, wikipedia, mozilla, major league baseball, FIFA, American Medical Association, OPEC, ...) versus &quot;one-size fits-all&quot; communities which function much like &lt;b&gt;mass media&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;IMHO mass media and online do not mix all that well. As has been noted many years since, the &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;STRENGTH&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of the internet is that is &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;incredibly&lt;/i&gt; well adapted&lt;/b&gt; to &lt;i&gt;narrowcasting&lt;/i&gt; -- &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; broadcasting&lt;/i&gt; (remember how 9/11 crashed the web?).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If &quot;social networks&quot; are &lt;i&gt;nonetheless&lt;/i&gt; set up for &lt;b&gt;millions&lt;/b&gt; of users, then that will simply mean that the information they contain is rather &lt;i&gt;noisy&lt;/i&gt; (and that&#039;s why I no longer use twitter very much; in contrast, I continue to be amazed at how diligent and enthusiastically the people at digg.com are addressing such issues -- and I think that slashdot and digg may very well be the &quot;prototypical&quot; for web 3.0 [insofar as the links actually don&#039;t matter so much as the &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;participation&lt;/i&gt; of experts/enthusiasts&lt;/b&gt; -- this will, of course, ultimately lead to web 4.6: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gaggle.info/miscellaneous/articles/wisdom-of-the-language&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gaggle.info/miscellaneous/articles/wisdom-of-the-language&lt;/a&gt; ;]).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: update</p>
<p>John, this is basically a trade-off between focusing/targeting a community for a particular type of interaction (examples might include CCC, the web2summit, wikipedia, mozilla, major league baseball, FIFA, American Medical Association, OPEC, &#8230;) versus &#8220;one-size fits-all&#8221; communities which function much like <b>mass media</b>.</p>
<p>IMHO mass media and online do not mix all that well. As has been noted many years since, the <b><i>STRENGTH</i></b> of the internet is that is <b><i>incredibly</i> well adapted</b> to <i>narrowcasting</i> &#8212; <i><b>not</b> broadcasting</i> (remember how 9/11 crashed the web?).</p>
<p>If &#8220;social networks&#8221; are <i>nonetheless</i> set up for <b>millions</b> of users, then that will simply mean that the information they contain is rather <i>noisy</i> (and that&#8217;s why I no longer use twitter very much; in contrast, I continue to be amazed at how diligent and enthusiastically the people at digg.com are addressing such issues &#8212; and I think that slashdot and digg may very well be the &#8220;prototypical&#8221; for web 3.0 [insofar as the links actually don't matter so much as the <b><i>participation</i> of experts/enthusiasts</b> -- this will, of course, ultimately lead to web 4.6: <a href="http://gaggle.info/miscellaneous/articles/wisdom-of-the-language" rel="nofollow">http://gaggle.info/miscellaneous/articles/wisdom-of-the-language</a> ;]).</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Budd</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/09/twitter_bios_should_not_be_nofollowed_updated_whuffie_me.php#comment-6651</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Budd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is no baby in this bath water. At least none to anyone but &quot;social marketers&quot;.  nofollow is a curse we&#039;re stuck with because of the immaturity of search engines.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no baby in this bath water. At least none to anyone but &#8220;social marketers&#8221;.  nofollow is a curse we&#8217;re stuck with because of the immaturity of search engines.</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Marc:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Content does not only exist &quot;on a site&quot; -- at a &lt;b&gt;higher&lt;/b&gt; level, content also exists &quot;on the &lt;i&gt;web&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At this level, the domain name is also &quot;content&quot; (it&#039;s &quot;contained&quot; at the domain name registry).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This content is far more reliable than all of the other data on the internet -- and &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is the primary reason why it&#039;s so valuable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc:</p>
<p>Content does not only exist &#8220;on a site&#8221; &#8212; at a <b>higher</b> level, content also exists &#8220;on the <i>web</i>&#8220;.</p>
<p>At this level, the domain name is also &#8220;content&#8221; (it&#8217;s &#8220;contained&#8221; at the domain name registry).</p>
<p>This content is far more reliable than all of the other data on the internet &#8212; and <b><i>that</i></b> is the primary reason why it&#8217;s so valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@eduo:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;yes, I think we agree -- and the point is that the domain name (since it is &lt;i&gt;registered&lt;/i&gt; at the &lt;i&gt;registry&lt;/i&gt;) is really the only &lt;b&gt;reliable&lt;/b&gt; piece of information (and links are more/less &lt;i&gt;worthless&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@eduo:</p>
<p>yes, I think we agree &#8212; and the point is that the domain name (since it is <i>registered</i> at the <i>registry</i>) is really the only <b>reliable</b> piece of information (and links are more/less <i>worthless</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Beharry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Beharry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@eduo: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twitter users create ALL of the content on the site.  Without the users Twitter is worthless, so they should give credit where it is due.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its not really their page rank to horde, we created all of the content!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i hope that makes sense.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@nmw:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love how you put this: &quot;Google engineers were contradicting themselves by negating the validity of their very own system&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@eduo: </p>
<p>Twitter users create ALL of the content on the site.  Without the users Twitter is worthless, so they should give credit where it is due.  </p>
<p>Its not really their page rank to horde, we created all of the content!</p>
<p>i hope that makes sense.</p>
<p>@nmw:</p>
<p>I love how you put this: &#8220;Google engineers were contradicting themselves by negating the validity of their very own system&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MarkEdmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkEdmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Putting URLs in the Bio was a loophole popularised recently by Dave Naylor - everyone who was doing it knew it was circumnavigating the nofollow that has always existed in the website profile field - why blame Google for twitter closing an obvious exploit that was never intended?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting URLs in the Bio was a loophole popularised recently by Dave Naylor &#8211; everyone who was doing it knew it was circumnavigating the nofollow that has always existed in the website profile field &#8211; why blame Google for twitter closing an obvious exploit that was never intended?</p>
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		<title>By: Chetan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chetan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am with Rae!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have already posted about it - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewwwblog.com/twitter-nofollows-the-profile-links.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thewwwblog.com/twitter-nofollows-the-profile-links.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Rae!</p>
<p>Have already posted about it &#8211; <a href="http://www.thewwwblog.com/twitter-nofollows-the-profile-links.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewwwblog.com/twitter-nofollows-the-profile-links.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: eduo</title>
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		<dc:creator>eduo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nmw: Pretty interesting read, thanks a lot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I keep thinking the same way I did, but maybe that&#039;s because I value the link above the place where it&#039;s put at.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If individual twitter pages had their own pagerank, independent of twitter&#039;s, then I&#039;d vote against the NoFollow in the same way I&#039;d vote against it in Blogger.com blogs, as what should make that link more relevant is the history of the person that put it there (which is what your personal homepage&#039;s PageRank is supposed to be a representation of, although to be true this whole system has been corrupted).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google&#039;s system has been broken for a long time now. Most queries bring you to splogs, automated clickcatchers, manipulating search engines with their own DNS and such anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nmw: Pretty interesting read, thanks a lot.</p>
<p>I keep thinking the same way I did, but maybe that&#8217;s because I value the link above the place where it&#8217;s put at.</p>
<p>If individual twitter pages had their own pagerank, independent of twitter&#8217;s, then I&#8217;d vote against the NoFollow in the same way I&#8217;d vote against it in Blogger.com blogs, as what should make that link more relevant is the history of the person that put it there (which is what your personal homepage&#8217;s PageRank is supposed to be a representation of, although to be true this whole system has been corrupted).</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s system has been broken for a long time now. Most queries bring you to splogs, automated clickcatchers, manipulating search engines with their own DNS and such anyway.</p>
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