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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/05/google_does_not_market_except_when_it_does.php#comment-7588</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I knew as soon as I posted that comment that I hadn&#039;t explained myself properly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google&#039;s services (IMO) tend to do one, or both of two thing;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;* Provide an existing service, but in a far superior way (Google Maps)&lt;br /&gt;
* Do something people didn&#039;t realise they needed (search for the name of a business, and automatically get the store marked on a map)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not Google&#039;s biggest fan, but they seem to do things on an almost daily basis which make my online &#039;life&#039; better. And that&#039;s as powerful as any marketing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew as soon as I posted that comment that I hadn&#8217;t explained myself properly.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s services (IMO) tend to do one, or both of two thing;</p>
<p>* Provide an existing service, but in a far superior way (Google Maps)<br />
* Do something people didn&#8217;t realise they needed (search for the name of a business, and automatically get the store marked on a map)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not Google&#8217;s biggest fan, but they seem to do things on an almost daily basis which make my online &#8216;life&#8217; better. And that&#8217;s as powerful as any marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/05/google_does_not_market_except_when_it_does.php#comment-7587</link>
		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 04:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So I guess when people used to type &quot;mapquest&quot; in the search box, I guess they didn&#039;t realize what they really needed was Google Maps?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends?q=mapquest%2C+google+maps&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.google.com/trends?q=mapquest%2C+google+maps&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess when people used to type &#8220;mapquest&#8221; in the search box, I guess they didn&#8217;t realize what they really needed was Google Maps?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=mapquest%2C+google+maps" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/trends?q=mapquest%2C+google+maps</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/05/google_does_not_market_except_when_it_does.php#comment-7586</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A few years back Google started giving out these Google Maps stickers to businesses over here in the UK (http://searchengineland.com/070208-075128.php); marketing, pure &amp; simple.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do think though that Google, even when they&#039;re not doing traditional consumer marketing, are doing more than harvesting demand. What they do so well, which I think you could almost define as marketing, is creating products &amp; services which people don&#039;t even realise they need, and then promoting them through the SERPs. Google Maps is a perfect example of this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back Google started giving out these Google Maps stickers to businesses over here in the UK (<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070208-075128.php" rel="nofollow">http://searchengineland.com/070208-075128.php</a>); marketing, pure &#038; simple.</p>
<p>I do think though that Google, even when they&#8217;re not doing traditional consumer marketing, are doing more than harvesting demand. What they do so well, which I think you could almost define as marketing, is creating products &#038; services which people don&#8217;t even realise they need, and then promoting them through the SERPs. Google Maps is a perfect example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 06:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google did underwrite Nova in 2005/6.  Not sure why they didn&#039;t continue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Their underwriting spot is still online&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/funders/google.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/funders/google.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Google did underwrite Nova in 2005/6.  Not sure why they didn&#8217;t continue.</p>
<p>Their underwriting spot is still online</p>
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<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/funders/google.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/funders/google.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will second tim&#039;s comments.  And it was more than a year ago.  Google definitely had a brand-awareness-raising commercial at the beginning of NOVA, for at least two, if not three or more years now.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also, in the fall of 2005, remember hearing Google ads on NPR.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So maybe Google hasn&#039;t done a *lot* of brand advertising of its own properties.  But it is certainly nothing new.. they&#039;ve done a little bit of it for years now.  That barrier was broken a long time ago.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will second tim&#8217;s comments.  And it was more than a year ago.  Google definitely had a brand-awareness-raising commercial at the beginning of NOVA, for at least two, if not three or more years now.  </p>
<p>I also, in the fall of 2005, remember hearing Google ads on NPR.</p>
<p>So maybe Google hasn&#8217;t done a *lot* of brand advertising of its own properties.  But it is certainly nothing new.. they&#8217;ve done a little bit of it for years now.  That barrier was broken a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good point, Doug -- and that &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; seem to be &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;search&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, does it? (hmm -- &quot;maps&quot; rhymes with &quot;maps&quot; though -- maybe they can work that into their slogan sometime ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m guessing they&#039;re trying to figure out a direction to go once people figure out that their search engine doesn&#039;t actually &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; very much (I can find ebay.com and amazon.com fine now, thank you very much :P).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps a satellite image from several years ago of a place I plan to visit might be important to me someday -- and I guess &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is why they put the banner up at the stadium (I guess they figure they might be able to find some mom &amp; pop shop willing to give them money to advertise their candy store so I will be able to find it while surfing on my portable device).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It really &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;amazes&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; me -- if I am ahead of my time, these guys are &quot;&lt;i&gt;way out there&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:) nmw&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Doug &#8212; and that <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> seem to be <b><i>search</i></b>, does it? (hmm &#8212; &#8220;maps&#8221; rhymes with &#8220;maps&#8221; though &#8212; maybe they can work that into their slogan sometime <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing they&#8217;re trying to figure out a direction to go once people figure out that their search engine doesn&#8217;t actually <i>do</i> very much (I can find ebay.com and amazon.com fine now, thank you very much <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>Perhaps a satellite image from several years ago of a place I plan to visit might be important to me someday &#8212; and I guess <i>that</i> is why they put the banner up at the stadium (I guess they figure they might be able to find some mom &#038; pop shop willing to give them money to advertise their candy store so I will be able to find it while surfing on my portable device).</p>
<p>It really <b><i>amazes</i></b> me &#8212; if I am ahead of my time, these guys are &#8220;<i>way out there</i>&#8220;.</p>
<p> <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  nmw</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Schumacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Schumacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Their ads are delivering good information. For a company that seems to have everything in beta, how they spend their valuable marketing dollars lets everyone know which products they&#039;re actually taking seriously. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their ads are delivering good information. For a company that seems to have everything in beta, how they spend their valuable marketing dollars lets everyone know which products they&#8217;re actually taking seriously. </p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve seen Google on TV -- after PBS shows, I think.  &quot;This show was made possible by ..&quot;.  It must have been at least a year ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can totally believe Google won&#039;t admit it.  They do some great work, but everybody there drank the kool-aid.  Sometimes it seems like they speak only in hyperbole.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen Google on TV &#8212; after PBS shows, I think.  &#8220;This show was made possible by ..&#8221;.  It must have been at least a year ago.</p>
<p>I can totally believe Google won&#8217;t admit it.  They do some great work, but everybody there drank the kool-aid.  Sometimes it seems like they speak only in hyperbole.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Megalli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Megalli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the key advantages of a brand is that it allows you to command a premium price. Until now, Google&#039;s consumer-facing  services have all been free. The imperative to continue to build the brand will grow as Google introduces products like Android to the market; products which will require consumers to use their $ to choose the brand over other, more familiar alternatives. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However I think that for Google there is probably a third path beyond the dichotomy between harvesting brand demand and building it. The reason that Google has been so good at harvesting is that they have built a great deal of goodwill based on years of offering (free) value. In this context, harvesting has been easy. As the company looks to expand its consumer proposition, however, the ways in which it uses the potential energy stored up in this goodwill will be critical. Old models -- such as scoreboard ads in ballparks -- will almost certainly erode rather than build the power of the brand.       &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the key advantages of a brand is that it allows you to command a premium price. Until now, Google&#8217;s consumer-facing  services have all been free. The imperative to continue to build the brand will grow as Google introduces products like Android to the market; products which will require consumers to use their $ to choose the brand over other, more familiar alternatives. </p>
<p>However I think that for Google there is probably a third path beyond the dichotomy between harvesting brand demand and building it. The reason that Google has been so good at harvesting is that they have built a great deal of goodwill based on years of offering (free) value. In this context, harvesting has been easy. As the company looks to expand its consumer proposition, however, the ways in which it uses the potential energy stored up in this goodwill will be critical. Old models &#8212; such as scoreboard ads in ballparks &#8212; will almost certainly erode rather than build the power of the brand.       </p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Buckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Buckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John - Why at a ballpark when ALL eyes are pointed at the Golden Triangle (that is, the field!)?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As someone pointed out above... If they&#039;re getting into transit route maps... put it on busses, cabs or something far more creative than I&#039;m coming up with here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These are wicked smart people. They ought to call our buddies at Crispin Porter. Now THOSE folks will knock it out of the park. (Subservient Chicken, Burger King...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I understand how they might wrestle with scaling the new stuff... analytics, maps, app engine, on and on. Just like with search, they&#039;ll figure it out one line at a time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Why at a ballpark when ALL eyes are pointed at the Golden Triangle (that is, the field!)?</p>
<p>As someone pointed out above&#8230; If they&#8217;re getting into transit route maps&#8230; put it on busses, cabs or something far more creative than I&#8217;m coming up with here.</p>
<p>These are wicked smart people. They ought to call our buddies at Crispin Porter. Now THOSE folks will knock it out of the park. (Subservient Chicken, Burger King&#8230;)</p>
<p>I understand how they might wrestle with scaling the new stuff&#8230; analytics, maps, app engine, on and on. Just like with search, they&#8217;ll figure it out one line at a time.</p>
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