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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mr. Hittel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think I understand what you mean.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;IMHO, you can rest assured that the novices using Google to help them find a life insurance policy will most likely first brag to their peers that they have found the &quot;cheapest&quot; offer for life insurance when using Google.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they find their information at a &quot;&lt;i&gt;reputable&lt;/i&gt;&quot; address (e.g. an &quot;insurance&quot; domain -- and no, I do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; mean &quot;lifeinsurance&quot; [as &quot;lifeinsurance&quot; is not actually a word]), then they can most likely rest assured that they will not be disappointed (since otherwise the very high value of the domain name could easily be ruined -- at least for the short / medium term) -- but perhaps many will later find out that they have actually &quot;fallen for&quot; some &lt;i&gt;gimmick&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Few people have a very good understanding of how information retrieval (&quot;search&quot;) works -- and an understanding of these processes has fundamentally changed how marketing and advertising works.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the moment, many people actually &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; believe that Google has figured out something like a &quot;magical formula&quot; that will always provide the &quot;best answer&quot; for every question. Since I commonly track the behavior of very young Internet users, I know that are very results oriented -- and they quickly revise their methodologies if something doesn&#039;t seem to work. And I see that they are very communicative regarding &quot;what works&quot; vs. &quot;what doesn&#039;t work&quot; -- so I agree with Mr. Battelle that an information retrieval system which &lt;i&gt;invites participation&lt;/i&gt; (or &quot;&lt;i&gt;engagement&lt;/i&gt;&quot;) -- e.g. as with digg.com show the &lt;i&gt;greatest&lt;/i&gt; promise (I worked on similar sites before digg.com launched -- and they were indeed &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; successful [but at that times they were still too small to survive the dot crash of 2001]). In contrast, Google (though it was &lt;i&gt;originally&lt;/i&gt; based on such participation) has become a very closed and cryptic organization (which guards the information it collects as if it were &quot;top secret&quot; [or at any rate a &quot;trade secret&quot;]) -- in the long run, this will not lead to the best results (but they are earning alot of money from advertisers who &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;believe&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; that it might work well).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I feel you should rest assured that the dot &lt;i&gt;com&lt;/i&gt; crash has not yet happened. Far more than 99% of all .COM registrations are worth virtually nothing whatsoever. If you are smart, you will guide your company to register a valuable domain name while relatively cheap domain names are still available. If you like, you can click though to a contact form and send me a message.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, the particular algorithms that google.com (or other google search configurations) use(s) may indeed be rather quirky. You are right in your analysis that google&#039;s algorithms seem rather &lt;i&gt;skewed&lt;/i&gt; towards &lt;b&gt;old&lt;/b&gt; (and perhaps even &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;outdated&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;) information. That is why advanced users will tend to use &quot;insurance&quot; sites (sites focused on &quot;insurance&quot; -- i.e. an &quot;insurance&quot; domain) to search for information related to insurance (and therefore according to search methodolgies that make more sense in this context than e.g. in the context of searching for a music video or something like that).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope this is helpful for you -- and please do not hesitate to contact me if you think I might be able to further help you in any way whatsoever.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:) nmw&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hittel,</p>
<p>I think I understand what you mean.</p>
<p>IMHO, you can rest assured that the novices using Google to help them find a life insurance policy will most likely first brag to their peers that they have found the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; offer for life insurance when using Google.</p>
<p>If they find their information at a &#8220;<i>reputable</i>&#8221; address (e.g. an &#8220;insurance&#8221; domain &#8212; and no, I do <i>not</i> mean &#8220;lifeinsurance&#8221; [as "lifeinsurance" is not actually a word]), then they can most likely rest assured that they will not be disappointed (since otherwise the very high value of the domain name could easily be ruined &#8212; at least for the short / medium term) &#8212; but perhaps many will later find out that they have actually &#8220;fallen for&#8221; some <i>gimmick</i>.</p>
<p>Few people have a very good understanding of how information retrieval (&#8220;search&#8221;) works &#8212; and an understanding of these processes has fundamentally changed how marketing and advertising works.</p>
<p>At the moment, many people actually <i>do</i> believe that Google has figured out something like a &#8220;magical formula&#8221; that will always provide the &#8220;best answer&#8221; for every question. Since I commonly track the behavior of very young Internet users, I know that are very results oriented &#8212; and they quickly revise their methodologies if something doesn&#8217;t seem to work. And I see that they are very communicative regarding &#8220;what works&#8221; vs. &#8220;what doesn&#8217;t work&#8221; &#8212; so I agree with Mr. Battelle that an information retrieval system which <i>invites participation</i> (or &#8220;<i>engagement</i>&#8220;) &#8212; e.g. as with digg.com show the <i>greatest</i> promise (I worked on similar sites before digg.com launched &#8212; and they were indeed <i>very</i> successful [but at that times they were still too small to survive the dot crash of 2001]). In contrast, Google (though it was <i>originally</i> based on such participation) has become a very closed and cryptic organization (which guards the information it collects as if it were &#8220;top secret&#8221; [or at any rate a "trade secret"]) &#8212; in the long run, this will not lead to the best results (but they are earning alot of money from advertisers who <b><i>believe</i></b> that it might work well).</p>
<p>I feel you should rest assured that the dot <i>com</i> crash has not yet happened. Far more than 99% of all .COM registrations are worth virtually nothing whatsoever. If you are smart, you will guide your company to register a valuable domain name while relatively cheap domain names are still available. If you like, you can click though to a contact form and send me a message.</p>
<p>Finally, the particular algorithms that google.com (or other google search configurations) use(s) may indeed be rather quirky. You are right in your analysis that google&#8217;s algorithms seem rather <i>skewed</i> towards <b>old</b> (and perhaps even <b><i>outdated</i></b>) information. That is why advanced users will tend to use &#8220;insurance&#8221; sites (sites focused on &#8220;insurance&#8221; &#8212; i.e. an &#8220;insurance&#8221; domain) to search for information related to insurance (and therefore according to search methodolgies that make more sense in this context than e.g. in the context of searching for a music video or something like that).</p>
<p>I hope this is helpful for you &#8212; and please do not hesitate to contact me if you think I might be able to further help you in any way whatsoever.</p>
<p> <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  nmw</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hittel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hittel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fair enough in re: the bright guys who long ago understood the wisdom of the &quot;insure&quot; and &quot;insurance&quot; language. But how did (do) the AccuQuotes, SelectQuotes, IntelliQuotes, NetQuotes of the world effectively achieve parity with the 150 year-old and expensively-branded life insurance manufacturers also showing up on that first SERP? More power to them for being smart enough to advertise early and often and for doing very effective SEO, too. I don&#039;t see how you avoid the conclusion that Google is branding (not harvesting the brands) of the DRGAs.&lt;br /&gt;
And, for that matter: What really do (price) quotes have to do with life insurance? Assuming you knew very little about all the relevant factors that go into an intelligent choice of the most appropriate life insurance product -- which is clearly the case for the great majority of us in this low interest category -- would you not infer from that first Google SERP that price is (obviously) the most important consideration? But that is indeed another discussion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough in re: the bright guys who long ago understood the wisdom of the &#8220;insure&#8221; and &#8220;insurance&#8221; language. But how did (do) the AccuQuotes, SelectQuotes, IntelliQuotes, NetQuotes of the world effectively achieve parity with the 150 year-old and expensively-branded life insurance manufacturers also showing up on that first SERP? More power to them for being smart enough to advertise early and often and for doing very effective SEO, too. I don&#8217;t see how you avoid the conclusion that Google is branding (not harvesting the brands) of the DRGAs.<br />
And, for that matter: What really do (price) quotes have to do with life insurance? Assuming you knew very little about all the relevant factors that go into an intelligent choice of the most appropriate life insurance product &#8212; which is clearly the case for the great majority of us in this low interest category &#8212; would you not infer from that first Google SERP that price is (obviously) the most important consideration? But that is indeed another discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AFAIK, Google does not dictate what happens on a domain such as those which you mention. Although it is true that they have mesmerized many content creators to create content according to &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; algorithms, in the long run this will become a minor blip in the technological breakthrough of the Internet and/or the World Wide Web.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact that the &quot;natural language&quot; domains you mention are among the highest ranked domains for people seeking information about &quot;life insurance&quot; has more to do with what I refer to as the &quot;Wisdom of the Language&quot; (in this case: English). What is important to recognize is that people seek to find information about &quot;insurance&quot; -- that string is (if you will) a term that has been &lt;b&gt;&quot;&lt;i&gt;branded&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/b&gt; over a period several centuries (indeed: actually several &lt;i&gt;millenia&lt;/i&gt;). That will not change overnight, and it will also not change for a &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;long&lt;/i&gt; time&lt;/b&gt; -- regardless of what Google may do or not do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFAIK, Google does not dictate what happens on a domain such as those which you mention. Although it is true that they have mesmerized many content creators to create content according to <i>their</i> algorithms, in the long run this will become a minor blip in the technological breakthrough of the Internet and/or the World Wide Web.</p>
<p>The fact that the &#8220;natural language&#8221; domains you mention are among the highest ranked domains for people seeking information about &#8220;life insurance&#8221; has more to do with what I refer to as the &#8220;Wisdom of the Language&#8221; (in this case: English). What is important to recognize is that people seek to find information about &#8220;insurance&#8221; &#8212; that string is (if you will) a term that has been <b>&#8220;<i>branded</i>&#8220;</b> over a period several centuries (indeed: actually several <i>millenia</i>). That will not change overnight, and it will also not change for a <b><i>long</i> time</b> &#8212; regardless of what Google may do or not do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hittel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hittel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Google is &quot;the most efficient harvester of brand equity in the world, but it&#039;s not built to create that equity.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Well, Google may not have been built to create brand equity, nor even all that interested in doing so but, boy, it certainly IS doing just that, at least in some verticals.&lt;br /&gt;
Take mine (please!): Life Insurance. Do a search on life insurance and take a look at the first page of results (the only one, of course, that matters): You&#039;ll see a few of the top brand names -- Prudential, MetLife, New York Life -- who have each spent 100+ years and Lord knows how many millions of dollars building brand equity -- along with, uh, CNNMoney, Wikipedia, FEGLI, The VA, Dave Ramsay (!), and a whole bunch of quote services: lifeinsure.com, lifeinsurance.net, elife.com, and etc. &lt;br /&gt;
Now, what&#039;s going on here? Google isn&#039;t harvesting brands -- it&#039;s leveling them, equalizing them. If you&#039;re New York Life you get to share real estate with insure.com (&quot;No Medical Exam&quot;) and Globe Life (&quot;No Waiting Period&quot;), not to mention the noted life insurance expert Dave Ramsay. Some major brands, those that don&#039;t show up at all on that first SERP, are marginalized, and those few that do make the list are just a part of a now-authoritative group of life insurance resources (and advertisers) that includes and is actually dominated by price quote vendors with, frankly, no non-Google brand equity at all. Google is &quot;harvesting&quot; the brand equity of lifeinsurance.net? I&#039;m sorry, no disrespect intended, but there&#039;s no there there in terms of brand equity. Is this a good thing for the consumer? Maybe, maybe not; that&#039;s a different discussion. Is this a good thing for brands? It&#039;s a decidely damn difficult thing for brands...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is &#8220;the most efficient harvester of brand equity in the world, but it&#8217;s not built to create that equity.&#8221;<br />
Well, Google may not have been built to create brand equity, nor even all that interested in doing so but, boy, it certainly IS doing just that, at least in some verticals.<br />
Take mine (please!): Life Insurance. Do a search on life insurance and take a look at the first page of results (the only one, of course, that matters): You&#8217;ll see a few of the top brand names &#8212; Prudential, MetLife, New York Life &#8212; who have each spent 100+ years and Lord knows how many millions of dollars building brand equity &#8212; along with, uh, CNNMoney, Wikipedia, FEGLI, The VA, Dave Ramsay (!), and a whole bunch of quote services: lifeinsure.com, lifeinsurance.net, elife.com, and etc. <br />
Now, what&#8217;s going on here? Google isn&#8217;t harvesting brands &#8212; it&#8217;s leveling them, equalizing them. If you&#8217;re New York Life you get to share real estate with insure.com (&#8220;No Medical Exam&#8221;) and Globe Life (&#8220;No Waiting Period&#8221;), not to mention the noted life insurance expert Dave Ramsay. Some major brands, those that don&#8217;t show up at all on that first SERP, are marginalized, and those few that do make the list are just a part of a now-authoritative group of life insurance resources (and advertisers) that includes and is actually dominated by price quote vendors with, frankly, no non-Google brand equity at all. Google is &#8220;harvesting&#8221; the brand equity of lifeinsurance.net? I&#8217;m sorry, no disrespect intended, but there&#8217;s no there there in terms of brand equity. Is this a good thing for the consumer? Maybe, maybe not; that&#8217;s a different discussion. Is this a good thing for brands? It&#8217;s a decidely damn difficult thing for brands&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nmw</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sean,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Content&quot; and &quot;Non-Content&quot; need to be clearly defined. The way I see it, algorithms are also content. Not that Google actually &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;uses&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; algorithms -- we should &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; know better since the &quot;miserable failure&quot; fiasco. And even if Google DID use algorithms, that is hardly to say that Google&#039;s algorithms are any better at finding a car than cars.com or at finding a hotel than hotels.com or at finding a pizza than pizza.com.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;see also my comment on a recent businessweek.com article:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://app.businessweek.com/UserComments/combo_review?action=getComment&amp;productId=29633&amp;reviewId=248840#248840&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://app.businessweek.com/UserComments/combo_review?action=getComment&amp;productId=29633&amp;reviewId=248840#248840&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>&#8220;Content&#8221; and &#8220;Non-Content&#8221; need to be clearly defined. The way I see it, algorithms are also content. Not that Google actually <b><i>uses</i></b> algorithms &#8212; we should <i>all</i> know better since the &#8220;miserable failure&#8221; fiasco. And even if Google DID use algorithms, that is hardly to say that Google&#8217;s algorithms are any better at finding a car than cars.com or at finding a hotel than hotels.com or at finding a pizza than pizza.com.</p>
<p>see also my comment on a recent businessweek.com article:</p>
<p><a href="http://app.businessweek.com/UserComments/combo_review?action=getComment&#038;productId=29633&#038;reviewId=248840#248840" rel="nofollow">http://app.businessweek.com/UserComments/combo_review?action=getComment&#038;productId=29633&#038;reviewId=248840#248840</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Sakamoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Sakamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve worked as a copywriter and content developer for some of the companies mentioned in this article. My concern is that Yahoo! is making the same mistake AOL made when it bought Time Warner. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AOL had a solid business as an ISP and point of entry for newcomers to the internet. Then it decided content was the play, and it got into the money pit of trying to be a content provider and a tech company.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google has avoided the minefield of media by going for tech. Yahoo! is trying to be a tech company like google, and a content provider, and that takes a lot of work. Legions of writers, editors, and reviewers who write content that other folks are happy to post on their blogs for free is a tough task. I can&#039;t see them managing it profitably.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m looking forward to part two of the article.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked as a copywriter and content developer for some of the companies mentioned in this article. My concern is that Yahoo! is making the same mistake AOL made when it bought Time Warner. </p>
<p>AOL had a solid business as an ISP and point of entry for newcomers to the internet. Then it decided content was the play, and it got into the money pit of trying to be a content provider and a tech company.</p>
<p>Google has avoided the minefield of media by going for tech. Yahoo! is trying to be a tech company like google, and a content provider, and that takes a lot of work. Legions of writers, editors, and reviewers who write content that other folks are happy to post on their blogs for free is a tough task. I can&#8217;t see them managing it profitably.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to part two of the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect that Yahoo&#039;s board realized the vast potential in APEX in rejecting the premium offered by MSFT. Yahoo may significantly change the online advertising platform with these applications.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that Yahoo&#8217;s board realized the vast potential in APEX in rejecting the premium offered by MSFT. Yahoo may significantly change the online advertising platform with these applications.</p>
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		<title>By: David H. Deans</title>
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		<dc:creator>David H. Deans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In a world where mass-marketing now has less mass and more fragmentation, and legacy brand marketing methodologies makes good business sense for the very few brands that have an engaged (real) customer following -- perhaps the fascination with ad networks is simply that it&#039;s time to try something different.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the 21st Century, maybe branding expertise really doesn&#039;t matter. The executive firings will likely continue until all the &quot;branding experts&quot; from a bygone era are purged from these organizations, and pragmatists with customer-centric savvy replace them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a world where mass-marketing now has less mass and more fragmentation, and legacy brand marketing methodologies makes good business sense for the very few brands that have an engaged (real) customer following &#8212; perhaps the fascination with ad networks is simply that it&#8217;s time to try something different.</p>
<p>In the 21st Century, maybe branding expertise really doesn&#8217;t matter. The executive firings will likely continue until all the &#8220;branding experts&#8221; from a bygone era are purged from these organizations, and pragmatists with customer-centric savvy replace them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent post John. The big question for those seeking to deliver on brand advertisers needs, I think, will be to deliver solutions that work at massive scale, since the competition here is television not other Internet providers. Television is where the competitive focus should be. The opportunity is to build brand offerings that can compete with television, not to build brand offerings that can compete with the world&#039;s greatest yellow pages, Google. As you say, chasing the latter means chasing Google&#039;s tail.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dave&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post John. The big question for those seeking to deliver on brand advertisers needs, I think, will be to deliver solutions that work at massive scale, since the competition here is television not other Internet providers. Television is where the competitive focus should be. The opportunity is to build brand offerings that can compete with television, not to build brand offerings that can compete with the world&#8217;s greatest yellow pages, Google. As you say, chasing the latter means chasing Google&#8217;s tail.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was just at SXSW interactive and was struck by how lost the big ad driven web folk are these days (full disclosure -- I left that side of the biz to join the non profit, online world).  The core problem is that the old way of branding doesn&#039;t work.  People used to have to watch 30 second spots -  they had no choice in the matter if the wanted to see &quot;their shows.&quot;  So, they appreciated the ones that were actually entertaining and talked about them.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, now that they consumers don&#039;t have to watch the 30 second spots anymore, they don&#039;t want to watch content about a new lite beer no matter how entertaining (they&#039;d rather see a whale exploding online).  They also don&#039;t want to read Twitter posts about soap. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This makes the job a lot harder.  Today&#039;s CMOs and ad agencies were raised in a world where you could buy buzz.  You can&#039;t really do that online.  You can if you accompany the campaign by a $50M TV buy but that leaves a lot of folks crying at the party.   That&#039;s why CMOs turn over pretty fast these days, the old formula doesn&#039;t work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know the components of the new formula.  I think the reality is that, the simple world of big push is largely gone.  And, I think the efforts of branders to use Hulu and other efforts will work to a degree but it&#039;ll be a very distant and ugly cousin to the glory days of $3 million 30 second spots. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It makes me a little sad -- I love the advertising and brand world.  It is a cool and funky place.  But, it -- and big media -- are in real trouble online. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just at SXSW interactive and was struck by how lost the big ad driven web folk are these days (full disclosure &#8212; I left that side of the biz to join the non profit, online world).  The core problem is that the old way of branding doesn&#8217;t work.  People used to have to watch 30 second spots &#8211;  they had no choice in the matter if the wanted to see &#8220;their shows.&#8221;  So, they appreciated the ones that were actually entertaining and talked about them.  </p>
<p>But, now that they consumers don&#8217;t have to watch the 30 second spots anymore, they don&#8217;t want to watch content about a new lite beer no matter how entertaining (they&#8217;d rather see a whale exploding online).  They also don&#8217;t want to read Twitter posts about soap. </p>
<p>This makes the job a lot harder.  Today&#8217;s CMOs and ad agencies were raised in a world where you could buy buzz.  You can&#8217;t really do that online.  You can if you accompany the campaign by a $50M TV buy but that leaves a lot of folks crying at the party.   That&#8217;s why CMOs turn over pretty fast these days, the old formula doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the components of the new formula.  I think the reality is that, the simple world of big push is largely gone.  And, I think the efforts of branders to use Hulu and other efforts will work to a degree but it&#8217;ll be a very distant and ugly cousin to the glory days of $3 million 30 second spots. </p>
<p>It makes me a little sad &#8212; I love the advertising and brand world.  It is a cool and funky place.  But, it &#8212; and big media &#8212; are in real trouble online. </p>
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