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		<title>By: m@ik</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/01/and_the_interface_evolves.php#comment-8580</link>
		<dc:creator>m@ik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice experiments. But IMHO the 3 columns-approach of ask.com (my current fav) and the menu-driven Yahoo! are more useful to me. Especially Ask, how good the auto suggested content is. By far better than the Google experiments.&lt;br /&gt;
But maybe this is also kind of a personal descision whether a displayed information will become an additional value or just a waste of space.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice experiments. But IMHO the 3 columns-approach of ask.com (my current fav) and the menu-driven Yahoo! are more useful to me. Especially Ask, how good the auto suggested content is. By far better than the Google experiments.<br />
But maybe this is also kind of a personal descision whether a displayed information will become an additional value or just a waste of space.</p>
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		<title>By: Google-Success.com</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/01/and_the_interface_evolves.php#comment-8579</link>
		<dc:creator>Google-Success.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I feel the experimental interfaces for Google results are not that creative and well thought of. For example, it would be foolish to have a map interface for someone looking for information on new trends in genetics.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I feel the experimental interfaces for Google results are not that creative and well thought of. For example, it would be foolish to have a map interface for someone looking for information on new trends in genetics.</p>
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		<title>By: topologic.info</title>
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		<dc:creator>topologic.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also (again, this is &quot;also, part 2&quot; ;) :&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The more Google fiddles and fuddles with their &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;presentation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of the results (and thereby again &lt;i&gt;continues to drift away from the original impetus that -- way back when [originally] -- &lt;b&gt;made Google great&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;), the &lt;b&gt;less&lt;/b&gt; the click stream reveals about what&#039;s &quot;out there&quot; on the Internet (and that holds whether the what&#039;s &quot;out there&quot; is the so-called &lt;b&gt;user&lt;/b&gt; [&quot;recipient&quot;] or whether it&#039;s the so-called &lt;b&gt;provider&lt;/b&gt; [&quot;sender&quot;]).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now that I think about it, I guess I am echoing (and &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;emphasizing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;) JG&#039;s comment above: The criteria Google uses to rank results is saying more &amp; more about Google&#039;s &quot;preferences&quot; -- i.e., what &quot;&lt;i&gt;matters&quot; to Google&lt;/i&gt; (and, as JG has ably argued: what Google &lt;i&gt;thinks&lt;/i&gt; might matter &lt;i&gt;to users/providers&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;ain&#039;t necessarily so&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the basic pitfall of a &quot;one-size-fits-all&quot; search engine (and it&#039;s also why &quot;educated&quot; / &quot;advanced&quot; searchers scoff at such a &quot;&lt;b&gt;hammer &amp; nail&lt;/b&gt;&quot; approach).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s an example: if you want to rent a video, it used to be that you had to know whether it was in VHS or Betamax format; and/or if the data were formatted according to PAL or NTSC -- and now you have to decide between Blue-Ray or HD DVDs. &lt;b&gt;However&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;i&gt;None of this matters if you want to buy a bicycle&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And here&#039;s a little &quot;BTW&quot; for Mr. Donahoe: If &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; are looking to make a one-size fits all search engine, you too will send your company into oblivion -- and it is better to recognize that simple fact &lt;b&gt;sooner&lt;/b&gt; rather than &lt;b&gt;later&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also (again, this is &#8220;also, part 2&#8243; <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  :</p>
<p>The more Google fiddles and fuddles with their <b><i>presentation</i></b> of the results (and thereby again <i>continues to drift away from the original impetus that &#8212; way back when [originally] &#8212; <b>made Google great</b></i>), the <b>less</b> the click stream reveals about what&#8217;s &#8220;out there&#8221; on the Internet (and that holds whether the what&#8217;s &#8220;out there&#8221; is the so-called <b>user</b> ["recipient"] or whether it&#8217;s the so-called <b>provider</b> ["sender"]).</p>
<p>Now that I think about it, I guess I am echoing (and <b><i>emphasizing</i></b>) JG&#8217;s comment above: The criteria Google uses to rank results is saying more &#038; more about Google&#8217;s &#8220;preferences&#8221; &#8212; i.e., what &#8220;<i>matters&#8221; to Google</i> (and, as JG has ably argued: what Google <i>thinks</i> might matter <i>to users/providers</i> <b><i>ain&#8217;t necessarily so</i></b>).</p>
<p>This is the basic pitfall of a &#8220;one-size-fits-all&#8221; search engine (and it&#8217;s also why &#8220;educated&#8221; / &#8220;advanced&#8221; searchers scoff at such a &#8220;<b>hammer &#038; nail</b>&#8221; approach).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example: if you want to rent a video, it used to be that you had to know whether it was in VHS or Betamax format; and/or if the data were formatted according to PAL or NTSC &#8212; and now you have to decide between Blue-Ray or HD DVDs. <b>However</b>: <i>None of this matters if you want to buy a bicycle</i>.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a little &#8220;BTW&#8221; for Mr. Donahoe: If <b><i>you</i></b> are looking to make a one-size fits all search engine, you too will send your company into oblivion &#8212; and it is better to recognize that simple fact <b>sooner</b> rather than <b>later</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: chiffre.ms</title>
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		<dc:creator>chiffre.ms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also: I was just thinking that the map user interface might be especially useful if users could select from a drop-down list of sexual positions, but without some &quot;authority control&quot; I fear that it will be only of limited use....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:) nmw&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: I was just thinking that the map user interface might be especially useful if users could select from a drop-down list of sexual positions, but without some &#8220;authority control&#8221; I fear that it will be only of limited use&#8230;.</p>
<p> <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  nmw</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2008/01/and_the_interface_evolves.php#comment-8576</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;we knew that, so did Google, but...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are these just the same four or five different visualizations that some other commenter a few weeks ago recommended that I take a look at?  Yeah, I think that&#039;s the page.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good for Google for throwing these things against the wall.   I laud that. But this is hardly a commitment to an evolved interface.  I want to see these things, and more, live.  Not on some hidden, experimental, labs page that the majority of searchers aren&#039;t going to find, much less even know to look for.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What I find sorta odd about the experimental page is that Google says &quot;you can only join ONE experiment at a time&quot;.  That doesn&#039;t make any sense.  If you want to move beyond 10 links, you gotta realize that different queries necessitate different visualizations.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For example, if I type &quot;iraq war&quot;, then I might want the timeline to automatically appear so I can see events on the timeline.  On the other hand, if I type &quot;vacuum cleaners&quot;, then I might want the automatic query expansion / right hand contextual search navigation to appear so I can see various types of vacuum cleaners, manufacturers, reviews, etc.  A timeline would be of little use to me.  Finally, if I type &quot;tim burton movies&quot;, then I might want to see both query expansion (all his movies, plus related persons such as Johnny Depp and Danny Elfman) as well as a timeline view (when his movies were released).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So for Google to only let one of these interfaces be active at a time doesn&#039;t really make a whole lot of sense.  They&#039;re basically requiring me, before doing every single query that I do, to go in and turn off one interface, then turn on the other, if my query is of a different type than the interface I currently have active.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Awkward.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s see these things start to appear on the main Google page, and in an automated, helpful manner, i.e. when it is contextually appropriate to my search activity.  Don&#039;t force me to go activate/deactivate it before and after every search. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I want something better.  And I want it before the next ten years pass by.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>we knew that, so did Google, but&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Are these just the same four or five different visualizations that some other commenter a few weeks ago recommended that I take a look at?  Yeah, I think that&#8217;s the page.  </p>
<p>Good for Google for throwing these things against the wall.   I laud that. But this is hardly a commitment to an evolved interface.  I want to see these things, and more, live.  Not on some hidden, experimental, labs page that the majority of searchers aren&#8217;t going to find, much less even know to look for.  </p>
<p>What I find sorta odd about the experimental page is that Google says &#8220;you can only join ONE experiment at a time&#8221;.  That doesn&#8217;t make any sense.  If you want to move beyond 10 links, you gotta realize that different queries necessitate different visualizations.  </p>
<p>For example, if I type &#8220;iraq war&#8221;, then I might want the timeline to automatically appear so I can see events on the timeline.  On the other hand, if I type &#8220;vacuum cleaners&#8221;, then I might want the automatic query expansion / right hand contextual search navigation to appear so I can see various types of vacuum cleaners, manufacturers, reviews, etc.  A timeline would be of little use to me.  Finally, if I type &#8220;tim burton movies&#8221;, then I might want to see both query expansion (all his movies, plus related persons such as Johnny Depp and Danny Elfman) as well as a timeline view (when his movies were released).</p>
<p>So for Google to only let one of these interfaces be active at a time doesn&#8217;t really make a whole lot of sense.  They&#8217;re basically requiring me, before doing every single query that I do, to go in and turn off one interface, then turn on the other, if my query is of a different type than the interface I currently have active.  </p>
<p>Awkward.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see these things start to appear on the main Google page, and in an automated, helpful manner, i.e. when it is contextually appropriate to my search activity.  Don&#8217;t force me to go activate/deactivate it before and after every search. </p>
<p>I want something better.  And I want it before the next ten years pass by.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL @ &lt;i&gt; ooooh... ahhhhhhh!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some are pretty cool like the Google Image Labeler, which can show you how incredibly dumb or intelligent you are within two minutes (how did Het is al van u score 20000010 points?!!), but I others confined to 1024x768 screens would probably find them a bit too cluttered. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ <i> ooooh&#8230; ahhhhhhh!!</i></p>
<p>Some are pretty cool like the Google Image Labeler, which can show you how incredibly dumb or intelligent you are within two minutes (how did Het is al van u score 20000010 points?!!), but I others confined to 1024&#215;768 screens would probably find them a bit too cluttered. </p>
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		<title>By: infopro.biz</title>
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		<dc:creator>infopro.biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let me give the guys a couple tips:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. clustering:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;see e.g. www.quintura.com:/?request=news&amp;searchvia=1&amp;page=1&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2. menu-driven (aka &quot;suggest&quot;) -- KISS:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;cf. search.yahoo.com&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3. is it LIVE or is it MEMOREX?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;... ... ... hmm... -- let&#039;s see... maybe:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;cf. digg.com , twitter.com , facebook.com , wikia.com , ... live.com ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4. if you want to refinance, try refinance.com -- if you&#039;re not happy with the results, then maybe try refinance.net or refinance.org or ...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me give the guys a couple tips:</p>
<p>1. clustering:</p>
<p>see e.g. <a href="http://www.quintura.com:/?request=news&#038;searchvia=1&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.quintura.com:/?request=news&#038;searchvia=1&#038;page=1</a></p>
<p>2. menu-driven (aka &#8220;suggest&#8221;) &#8212; KISS:</p>
<p>cf. search.yahoo.com</p>
<p>3. is it LIVE or is it MEMOREX?</p>
<p>&#8230; &#8230; &#8230; hmm&#8230; &#8212; let&#8217;s see&#8230; maybe:</p>
<p>cf. digg.com , twitter.com , facebook.com , wikia.com , &#8230; live.com ?</p>
<p>4. if you want to refinance, try refinance.com &#8212; if you&#8217;re not happy with the results, then maybe try refinance.net or refinance.org or &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: promoters.biz</title>
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		<dc:creator>promoters.biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ooooh... ahhhhhhh!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:) nmw&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooooh&#8230; ahhhhhhh!!</p>
<p> <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  nmw</p>
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