Comments on: When Microsoft (and Yahoo) Are Sucking Wind, Is It Fun to Be Google?

By: Jon Gos

Jon Gos — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:14:15 +0000

Personally, I hope Microsoft fail miserably with this "Live" stuff and most of their other projects. They need to be taught a lesson, which is to rethink their role and effectiveness a company. Vista mises the point entirely, instead of really trying to advance things, they put out an OS that's fairly boring (for any long-time Unix user) and unnecessary given the current landscape of desktop OS (the future seems to be integration with web based services). Instead of chasing Apple, they should find ways for Apple to chase them. They're the Goliath in the field. Stop worrying about the Davids (Google, Apple, Yahoo) and innovate.

Innovation will bring success.

It's these reasons that make me not like them as a company. They just seem too petrified right now to do anything meaningful. Take some risks.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:32:34 +0000

Maybe Microsoft will buy Yahoo?

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:48:52 +0000

i agree with errol, there was already ten years of brand investment in MSN... why create a new (and incredibly bland) brand like Live.com?

at least you have a base of users to start with using MSN. they could probably have even used Microsoft.com or Windows.com as poor but acceptable choices. Live.com is just stupid -- it's like choosing Door.com or Air.com... nothing memorable whatsoever.

contrary to XBox, which has perhaps spent a HUGE amount of money to at least get some decent market share & memorable branding, Live.com has been an UTTER waste of time & money, and in fact is a significant step backwards from MSN.com.

high time for Ballmer to call up Diller & pay up for Ask.com. how much would it cost? $5B? $7B? at least they could add some market share, a decent brand, and some good search assets. either that, or buy Yahoo already. sheesh.

hey Stevie B, when you stop throwing chairs around, you should remember the 1st Rule of Holes: when you're in one, stop digging.

By: nmw

nmw — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:40:37 +0000

Does anyone know whether M$ has a trademark on “live”? (IANAL)

Otherwise, I wouldn’t refer to it as a brand (but rather simply a domain name).

Whether that string confuses some English-speakers is another matter, but I think it’s a “cool” name (I admit that it *does* give me the *impression* that the something about the site might be “fresh” or “filled with vitality” or something like that).

BTW: is it really necessary to have a “TypeKey” account to post a URL? (testing: http://www.cobranding.org )

By: macbeach

macbeach — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:59:22 +0000

MS seems to have an obsession about using ordinary English words to name everything, so brand confusion is built-in for anything that the world hasn't already become addicted to (Word, Excel, Office, etc. I think "PowerPoint" was a slip-up and would have normally been called "Slide Show")

For as long as MS dominates the desktop market I'd just as soon see them fail at everything else. Yes, we need competition. What we don't need is for MS to once again leverage an existing monopoly in order to create another.

Microsoft's desire to not only do better than the competition but to (to use one of their words) destroy them, makes everything they do suspect in my mind.

MS having sucked the air out of the room for the PC marketplace will in the long run (getting shorter every day though) cause the US to be a third world country for high tech (some say we are already there). Google and companies like them are the only hope we have of remaining relevant. If MS and their bloated desktop were to dry up and blow away tomorrow it would be none too soon for me.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:40:13 +0000

Hi John,

Thanks for posting this.

Do you see any value in Microsoft going back to MSN search since Live is confusing the hell out of everyone or do you think Microsoft should invest in building a new search brand altogether?

By: codenut

codenut — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:36:12 +0000

I just wrote last week about Microsoft and Live.com .. about it being the time to consider starting over

http://www.winextra.com/?p=263

By: David

David — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:32:28 +0000

I think ultimately the problem with the Windows Live and Office Live strategies is that, like the Xbox Live strategy, requires deep integration. Microsoft is deathly afraid of integrating Windows and Windows Live to its "full potential" because of previous anti-trust regulations. I feel that's what it comes down to.

That's not to say that they can't be successful in search, just that their strategy as of now requires integration, which they are hesitant to do.

By: Errol

Errol — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:05:53 +0000

I personally think MS should have just focused on improving MSN. Every body is already fimiliar with that brand. An it really needs some improvement.

By: Sal Shepherd

Sal Shepherd — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:45:18 +0000

The fact is there's nothing "live" in live.com . the other thing that always lasted with me from beginning, even though I love MS and think they will make it in search, especially personalization search when becomes mainstream (and will change the face of the whole search industry), is "live" spelled backward is.. evil.