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		<title>By: alan macleese</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2006/06/google_not_buying_myspace_was_not_a_strategic_blunder.php#comment-14681</link>
		<dc:creator>alan macleese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;None of the chitchat I have heard on this site mentions the names of the four persons who spawned MySpace withouttheir names ever becoming public. Those names are Andrew ALan Wiederhorn and his wife TIffany, and Clarence B. (UNcle Bud) Coleman and HIS wife Joan. This foursome is the controlling powers of Fog Cutter Capital Group, an infamous predatory subprime lender out of Portland Ore. THe Wiederhorns are infamous and despised by the large segments of the Oregon population, particiualy unionists because the Wiederhorns and the COleman were centrally involved in the largest pension fund theft of its kind in AMerican history, and Andrew Alan Wiederhorn was, in fact, in a federal pen in Oregon when his cohorts gained control of Intermix, the mom of the bastard child MySpace, the venture firms associated with MySpace, Redpoint and Vantage point, and all lthis has been under the radar of the lamestreammedia alghough blogger Trent Lapinski from L.A. area and me -- Alan MacLeese, a retired newspaperman -- published this newsy morsel in APRIL and all this can be checked out by googling ALan MacLeese, Trent Lapinski, Konspiracy Korners, theSounds of Crickets Chirping, the Catbird Forum, Scobleizer, Buzzmachine, TechDirt or, well, you all can google, can&#039;t you. (If that sounds snappish, excuse it because I have been working with Lapinski on this sisnce March 27, and, well, one does get snarky after such a siege, but Lapinski will have a natonal magazine piece published all over the place, and, finally, the charade of cabinboys Tommy ANderson and Chrissy DeWolfe will come to a rather ignominous end. Al MacLeese, from Hallowell Maine where the beavers build granite dams.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the chitchat I have heard on this site mentions the names of the four persons who spawned MySpace withouttheir names ever becoming public. Those names are Andrew ALan Wiederhorn and his wife TIffany, and Clarence B. (UNcle Bud) Coleman and HIS wife Joan. This foursome is the controlling powers of Fog Cutter Capital Group, an infamous predatory subprime lender out of Portland Ore. THe Wiederhorns are infamous and despised by the large segments of the Oregon population, particiualy unionists because the Wiederhorns and the COleman were centrally involved in the largest pension fund theft of its kind in AMerican history, and Andrew Alan Wiederhorn was, in fact, in a federal pen in Oregon when his cohorts gained control of Intermix, the mom of the bastard child MySpace, the venture firms associated with MySpace, Redpoint and Vantage point, and all lthis has been under the radar of the lamestreammedia alghough blogger Trent Lapinski from L.A. area and me &#8212; Alan MacLeese, a retired newspaperman &#8212; published this newsy morsel in APRIL and all this can be checked out by googling ALan MacLeese, Trent Lapinski, Konspiracy Korners, theSounds of Crickets Chirping, the Catbird Forum, Scobleizer, Buzzmachine, TechDirt or, well, you all can google, can&#8217;t you. (If that sounds snappish, excuse it because I have been working with Lapinski on this sisnce March 27, and, well, one does get snarky after such a siege, but Lapinski will have a natonal magazine piece published all over the place, and, finally, the charade of cabinboys Tommy ANderson and Chrissy DeWolfe will come to a rather ignominous end. Al MacLeese, from Hallowell Maine where the beavers build granite dams.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A high school admin up there said MySpace is not profitable. Wow, so wrong. They&#039;re very profitable and were even before they were purchased by Newscorp. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He also said the hype about MySpace doesn&#039;t match the traffic. So wrong again. MySpace is the 2nd largets site in the US in terms of page views. Second only to Yahoo. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A high school admin up there said MySpace is not profitable. Wow, so wrong. They&#8217;re very profitable and were even before they were purchased by Newscorp. </p>
<p>He also said the hype about MySpace doesn&#8217;t match the traffic. So wrong again. MySpace is the 2nd largets site in the US in terms of page views. Second only to Yahoo. </p>
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		<title>By: Sernak Plywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sernak Plywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If they&#039;re not in the content business, what about Deja News? Yeah, it&#039;s technically Usenet, but I haven&#039;t subscribed to a &quot;Usenet&quot; group in a long time, but I&#039;m a member of several &quot;Google Groups.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they&#8217;re not in the content business, what about Deja News? Yeah, it&#8217;s technically Usenet, but I haven&#8217;t subscribed to a &#8220;Usenet&#8221; group in a long time, but I&#8217;m a member of several &#8220;Google Groups.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: blogopogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>blogopogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the first i ever heard of myspace.com was a news spot or talk show segment with three 12-14ish(?) girls meeting an undercover guy who had been posing as a teenager they&#039;d gotten to know online, so then they got to sit there while some older guy they didn&#039;t know at all pointed out all the ways their confidence/safety perception was completely off. it seemed pretty effective -- obviously uncomfortable for the girls.  myspace.com just doesn&#039;t scream &quot;that google aesthetic&quot; at me..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a daydream: google goes back in time to preserve &amp; invigorate mp3.com.  nothing&#039;s ever really taken it&#039;s place, so many bands from so many places, too many seemed to dispersed beyond the searchability &amp; some seemed to blink off the map entirely, either then or after never updating the initial band page they set up at some other lesser-known band hosting site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the first i ever heard of myspace.com was a news spot or talk show segment with three 12-14ish(?) girls meeting an undercover guy who had been posing as a teenager they&#8217;d gotten to know online, so then they got to sit there while some older guy they didn&#8217;t know at all pointed out all the ways their confidence/safety perception was completely off. it seemed pretty effective &#8212; obviously uncomfortable for the girls.  myspace.com just doesn&#8217;t scream &#8220;that google aesthetic&#8221; at me..</p>
<p>a daydream: google goes back in time to preserve &#038; invigorate mp3.com.  nothing&#8217;s ever really taken it&#8217;s place, so many bands from so many places, too many seemed to dispersed beyond the searchability &#038; some seemed to blink off the map entirely, either then or after never updating the initial band page they set up at some other lesser-known band hosting site.</p>
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		<title>By: SutroStyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SutroStyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 07:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I do not know whether your facts are correct, but your concerns are valid. We are running a social platform, with 500k users which is under web 2.0 radar, but we read many web 2.0 blogs for our education ;-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I can tell you that you raise a very valid concern- I veiw Google as my competitor, and I am VERY apprehensive of letting them measure my traffic with their adwords javascript. Now, if they truly went full speed into content creation business, then I would DEFINITELY freak out and turn to Adbrite or something like that. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know whether your facts are correct, but your concerns are valid. We are running a social platform, with 500k users which is under web 2.0 radar, but we read many web 2.0 blogs for our education <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And I can tell you that you raise a very valid concern- I veiw Google as my competitor, and I am VERY apprehensive of letting them measure my traffic with their adwords javascript. Now, if they truly went full speed into content creation business, then I would DEFINITELY freak out and turn to Adbrite or something like that. </p>
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		<title>By: M C</title>
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		<dc:creator>M C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 05:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are right MySpace group is very young. To Young for sales. Just free stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wise move not to buy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right MySpace group is very young. To Young for sales. Just free stuff.</p>
<p>Wise move not to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Goodmove...You are right about MySpace.  I have a solution that I would like to make you aware of that is oriented at K-12.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Please contact me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;garnold@lifelinked.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Goodmove&#8230;You are right about MySpace.  I have a solution that I would like to make you aware of that is oriented at K-12.</p>
<p>Please contact me.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:garnold@lifelinked.com">garnold@lifelinked.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: addollars</title>
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		<dc:creator>addollars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With MySpace having the 3rd most traffic domestically (only behind Yahoo adn Google) in the US and 5th most traffic globally, I find it hard to believe that &quot;MySpace is not profitable.&quot; Anyone who says this without qualification has no idea how Google makes money.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve heard that based on these figures, MySpace alone serves 20% of ALL internet ads. That is a lot of $$$$$.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With MySpace having the 3rd most traffic domestically (only behind Yahoo adn Google) in the US and 5th most traffic globally, I find it hard to believe that &#8220;MySpace is not profitable.&#8221; Anyone who says this without qualification has no idea how Google makes money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that based on these figures, MySpace alone serves 20% of ALL internet ads. That is a lot of $$$$$.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I disagree that it wasn&#039;t a strategic blunder. Google&#039;s main business is search and what better way to get into the &quot;people search&quot; business then to own Myspace. Google makes money in the ad business but it&#039;s CORE business is that it is a seach engine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;www.bookscholarship.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that it wasn&#8217;t a strategic blunder. Google&#8217;s main business is search and what better way to get into the &#8220;people search&#8221; business then to own Myspace. Google makes money in the ad business but it&#8217;s CORE business is that it is a seach engine.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bookscholarship.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookscholarship.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josef Davies-Coates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josef Davies-Coates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;+ of &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;perhaps the value of introducing people to the self-organising power &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; social networking sites will out-weigh the costs of MySpace currently being dominant and part of the Murdoch empire.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+ of </p>
<p>perhaps the value of introducing people to the self-organising power <b>of</b> social networking sites will out-weigh the costs of MySpace currently being dominant and part of the Murdoch empire.</p>
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