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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/05/google_news_rss_scraper.php#comment-21097</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2005 22:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I gotta strongly disagree with you on this one, John.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Hmm... you know, this shareware author isn&#039;t pricing his stuff right.  I think I&#039;ll just hack his software and not pay.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Geez, I can&#039;t believe that pianist is charging $20 to see his performance!  What a rip.  I&#039;ll just sneak in the back.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or, closer to home,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;What a pain in the ass all these site registrations are!  Sure, these companies are spending millions making content available to me for free, but screw &#039;em... I&#039;ll use bugmenot.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again:  Just because you may not like the terms for a particular product or service (or the terms are, frankly, indeed fubar&#039;d) doesn&#039;t give you the right (legally or, IMHO, morally) to use that product or service and ignore the terms.  Don&#039;t like the terms?  Don&#039;t use the product or service.  Simple as that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I completely agree that Google *should* be embracing RSS and Atom more fully, and in fact, I spoke personally with one of the Google News folks last week and urged them to do so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the bottom line is that it&#039;s Google&#039;s bandwidth, it&#039;s Google&#039;s engineering resources, and so on.  Violating their terms is rude and counterproductive.  Want them to embrace RSS and Atom more?  Start a petition, fly a plane-with-banner over the Googleplex, etc. etc. etc.  But quit the &#039;civil disobedience&#039; crap.  This ain&#039;t a matter of civil rights or life and death ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta strongly disagree with you on this one, John.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hmm&#8230; you know, this shareware author isn&#8217;t pricing his stuff right.  I think I&#8217;ll just hack his software and not pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Geez, I can&#8217;t believe that pianist is charging $20 to see his performance!  What a rip.  I&#8217;ll just sneak in the back.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, closer to home,</p>
<p>&#8220;What a pain in the ass all these site registrations are!  Sure, these companies are spending millions making content available to me for free, but screw &#8216;em&#8230; I&#8217;ll use bugmenot.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again:  Just because you may not like the terms for a particular product or service (or the terms are, frankly, indeed fubar&#8217;d) doesn&#8217;t give you the right (legally or, IMHO, morally) to use that product or service and ignore the terms.  Don&#8217;t like the terms?  Don&#8217;t use the product or service.  Simple as that.</p>
<p>I completely agree that Google *should* be embracing RSS and Atom more fully, and in fact, I spoke personally with one of the Google News folks last week and urged them to do so.</p>
<p>But the bottom line is that it&#8217;s Google&#8217;s bandwidth, it&#8217;s Google&#8217;s engineering resources, and so on.  Violating their terms is rude and counterproductive.  Want them to embrace RSS and Atom more?  Start a petition, fly a plane-with-banner over the Googleplex, etc. etc. etc.  But quit the &#8216;civil disobedience&#8217; crap.  This ain&#8217;t a matter of civil rights or life and death <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/05/google_news_rss_scraper.php#comment-21096</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2005 21:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bah, why should any one be worried that they break Google&#039;s TOS? They scrape our sites. Pot, Kettle Black anyone?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry, just a trifle testy this morning :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, why should any one be worried that they break Google&#8217;s TOS? They scrape our sites. Pot, Kettle Black anyone?</p>
<p>Sorry, just a trifle testy this morning <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Randy Charles Morin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Charles Morin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2005 19:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Done and million times and shutdown a million times by the Google lawyers. I can&#039;t believe we are still reporting this stuff as news in the blogosphere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done and million times and shutdown a million times by the Google lawyers. I can&#8217;t believe we are still reporting this stuff as news in the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: James MacAonghus</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/05/google_news_rss_scraper.php#comment-21094</link>
		<dc:creator>James MacAonghus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2005 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It says on the Scrappygoo website where it was done before... in the UK, by Julian Bond, who at the time was working for ecademy.com [he might still be :) ]. Google sent him a cease and desist letter, which Julian said he was expecting, and he said he didn&#039;t particularly mind stopping since he knew it was against the TOS. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It says on the Scrappygoo website where it was done before&#8230; in the UK, by Julian Bond, who at the time was working for ecademy.com [he might still be <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]. Google sent him a cease and desist letter, which Julian said he was expecting, and he said he didn&#8217;t particularly mind stopping since he knew it was against the TOS. </p>
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