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	<title>Comments on: Idea Dumb, Guys</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on the intersection of search, media, technology, and more.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Cook</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2004/06/idea_dumb_guys.php#comment-23916</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If a magazine is trying to increase the readership (and ad revenue) for a page, then sure they should make that page as spiderable as possible (at least for 3rd party services that only display summaries).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, if they&#039;re trying to promote themselves as a category killer (aka an authority site), and they&#039;re not clearly the best in that category; then some reserve is warranted. There are benefits to having people go to your front page, and trusting your editorial descression over a search engine or agregator.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The magazines and other content providers offer search just like the engines do. The BBC and A9 probably do it best, with their well placed inclusion of Google results. A magazine industry or individual content producer owned portal similar to either site would be a good way to go.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having a strong search engine of their own allows them to remain/become the authority they want to be. It would also be a great tool for selling people paid content.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But only if it was very large would it become many people&#039;s second or third search engine - a vital prerequisite for restricting access to their free content. Before then, it should still make at least some of it&#039;s free content available, as free advertising for their service.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW Looksmart already has a magazine search engine. It can be found at &lt;a&gt;www.findarticles.com&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s not particularly successfull, but that could well be due to a lack of marketing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a magazine is trying to increase the readership (and ad revenue) for a page, then sure they should make that page as spiderable as possible (at least for 3rd party services that only display summaries).</p>
<p>However, if they&#8217;re trying to promote themselves as a category killer (aka an authority site), and they&#8217;re not clearly the best in that category; then some reserve is warranted. There are benefits to having people go to your front page, and trusting your editorial descression over a search engine or agregator.</p>
<p>The magazines and other content providers offer search just like the engines do. The BBC and A9 probably do it best, with their well placed inclusion of Google results. A magazine industry or individual content producer owned portal similar to either site would be a good way to go.</p>
<p>Having a strong search engine of their own allows them to remain/become the authority they want to be. It would also be a great tool for selling people paid content.</p>
<p>But only if it was very large would it become many people&#8217;s second or third search engine &#8211; a vital prerequisite for restricting access to their free content. Before then, it should still make at least some of it&#8217;s free content available, as free advertising for their service.</p>
<p>BTW Looksmart already has a magazine search engine. It can be found at <a>http://www.findarticles.com</a>. It&#8217;s not particularly successfull, but that could well be due to a lack of marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron wall</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2004/06/idea_dumb_guys.php#comment-23915</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2004 02:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the articles are not compelling enough to be able to pull in good ad revenue then why should search engines want to pay to get that kind of quality (or lack of quality) document in their index?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The web is about syndication and distribution. By blocking their content they further lower their distribution levels making their ad space worth a decent amount less.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even if they made their own proprietary search engine some of the magazines participating in the portal project would most likely manipulate the results there for their own gain...it is just an all around dumb idea!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the articles are not compelling enough to be able to pull in good ad revenue then why should search engines want to pay to get that kind of quality (or lack of quality) document in their index?</p>
<p>The web is about syndication and distribution. By blocking their content they further lower their distribution levels making their ad space worth a decent amount less.</p>
<p>Even if they made their own proprietary search engine some of the magazines participating in the portal project would most likely manipulate the results there for their own gain&#8230;it is just an all around dumb idea!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Zaharias</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2004/06/idea_dumb_guys.php#comment-23914</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Zaharias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The funny thing is, the trade companies could make good money buying paid search ads on Google, effectively laying a huge dragnet through Google&#039;s traffic to pull the searches they have good content for. Other trade publications are doing it and the spread is significant, not to mention a primary source of new registrations. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is, the trade companies could make good money buying paid search ads on Google, effectively laying a huge dragnet through Google&#8217;s traffic to pull the searches they have good content for. Other trade publications are doing it and the spread is significant, not to mention a primary source of new registrations. </p>
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