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	<title>Comments on: The Register On Orkut&apos;s TOS</title>
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		<title>By: Seungkyu</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2004/02/the_register_on_orkuts_tos.php#comment-24985</link>
		<dc:creator>Seungkyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree but I would love to get invited to Orkut to see what it has to offer. Is there anybody who could kindly invite me to join? Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree but I would love to get invited to Orkut to see what it has to offer. Is there anybody who could kindly invite me to join? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Gen Kanai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen Kanai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am saddened and angered with the TOS for Orkut, enough that I have not joined, even though many of my friends have and have invited me in.  What happened to &quot;not being evil?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;JD, once Orkut gets out of Beta and really gets going, they will have a ton of information about the users, much more than just &quot; a couple of crummy thumbnail photos and details about some embarrassing personal interests.&quot;  Look at Usenet on Google- how much data do they have there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am saddened and angered with the TOS for Orkut, enough that I have not joined, even though many of my friends have and have invited me in.  What happened to &#8220;not being evil?&#8221;</p>
<p>JD, once Orkut gets out of Beta and really gets going, they will have a ton of information about the users, much more than just &#8221; a couple of crummy thumbnail photos and details about some embarrassing personal interests.&#8221;  Look at Usenet on Google- how much data do they have there.</p>
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		<title>By: JD Lasica</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD Lasica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2004 06:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I concur that Orkut needs less of a dose of heavy lawyering in its TOS But what kind of content do people post in a social networking space other than a couple of crummy thumbnail photos and details about some embarrassing personal interests?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur that Orkut needs less of a dose of heavy lawyering in its TOS But what kind of content do people post in a social networking space other than a couple of crummy thumbnail photos and details about some embarrassing personal interests?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Eichin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2004 23:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s probably been less outrage (though I&#039;ve posted plenty of my own) for one simple reason: *anything* microsoft does can be expected to be rammed down the throat of 80% of the net, and people have (with lots of evidence, reread the Finding of Fact if you&#039;ve forgotten) come to look at Microsoft in the worst possible light by default.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Orkut, on the other hand, still looks like &quot;another friendster/sixdegrees/linkedin/tribe/whatever&quot; -- something that will blow through a novelty stage, continue to work poorly if at all, and eventually drop back into oblivion as people realize that there isn&#039;t really &quot;any *there* there.&quot;  With any luck, the &quot;google affiliation&quot; gives it a chance to suck the space dry -- so people will stop trying :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s probably been less outrage (though I&#8217;ve posted plenty of my own) for one simple reason: *anything* microsoft does can be expected to be rammed down the throat of 80% of the net, and people have (with lots of evidence, reread the Finding of Fact if you&#8217;ve forgotten) come to look at Microsoft in the worst possible light by default.  </p>
<p>Orkut, on the other hand, still looks like &#8220;another friendster/sixdegrees/linkedin/tribe/whatever&#8221; &#8212; something that will blow through a novelty stage, continue to work poorly if at all, and eventually drop back into oblivion as people realize that there isn&#8217;t really &#8220;any *there* there.&#8221;  With any luck, the &#8220;google affiliation&#8221; gives it a chance to suck the space dry &#8212; so people will stop trying <img src='http://battellemedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I actually agree that orkut&#039;s terms could be phrased a bit more narrowly and in a more friendly manner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, I think you touch on what is going through the minds of consumers:  Google has shown they can be trusted.  While I don&#039;t agree with all of Google&#039;s policies, I&#039;ve found that the people who work there and the overall ethos of the place to be of very high integrity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And let&#039;s face it:  Google&#039;s brand DEPENDS upon the company&#039;s positive and trusted relationship with consumers.  Whereas MS doesn&#039;t have nearly as much at stake (it&#039;s not easy to forgo Windows and Office), it&#039;s a super-easy matter to use another search engine at the drop of a hat.  And I have no doubt that people would, too, if given reason to distrust Google.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and about Orlowski:  like anything from people who is exclusively one-note (and, for that matter, typically just downright snarky and nasty), most smart folks know to take such rantings with a grain of salt.  He&#039;s about as &quot;fair and balanced&quot; as the Fox network -- and just as annoying, IMHO.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree that orkut&#8217;s terms could be phrased a bit more narrowly and in a more friendly manner.</p>
<p>However, I think you touch on what is going through the minds of consumers:  Google has shown they can be trusted.  While I don&#8217;t agree with all of Google&#8217;s policies, I&#8217;ve found that the people who work there and the overall ethos of the place to be of very high integrity.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s face it:  Google&#8217;s brand DEPENDS upon the company&#8217;s positive and trusted relationship with consumers.  Whereas MS doesn&#8217;t have nearly as much at stake (it&#8217;s not easy to forgo Windows and Office), it&#8217;s a super-easy matter to use another search engine at the drop of a hat.  And I have no doubt that people would, too, if given reason to distrust Google.</p>
<p>Oh, and about Orlowski:  like anything from people who is exclusively one-note (and, for that matter, typically just downright snarky and nasty), most smart folks know to take such rantings with a grain of salt.  He&#8217;s about as &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; as the Fox network &#8212; and just as annoying, IMHO.</p>
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