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		<title>By: mstrcark</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/rss_marches_onnet-based_aggregators.php#comment-25283</link>
		<dc:creator>mstrcark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For a web-based reader I use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailyread.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Daily Read&lt;/a&gt;. It has nearly six hunbred feeds in 25 categories. It is easy to navigate and you don&#039;t need to sign-in or create an account to use to preview the feeds. Also, there are over 30 comics to read.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a web-based reader I use <a href="http://www.thedailyread.com" rel="nofollow">The Daily Read</a>. It has nearly six hunbred feeds in 25 categories. It is easy to navigate and you don&#8217;t need to sign-in or create an account to use to preview the feeds. Also, there are over 30 comics to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Elam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Elam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Currently I am using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloglines.com/blog/tomelam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bloglines&lt;/a&gt;, but two things about it make it unusable for my blogrolling purposes:  (1) I cannot make all entries private by default and just make certain folders public manualy and (2) when I click on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloglines.com/export&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Export Subscriptions&lt;/a&gt; I get a page that says:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;XML Parsing Error: not well-formed&lt;br /&gt;
Location: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloglines.com/export&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bloglines.com/export&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Line Number 219, Column 26:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;    &lt;outline title=&quot;RSS &amp; RDF News&quot;&amp;#62&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently I am using <a href="http://www.bloglines.com/blog/tomelam" rel="nofollow">Bloglines</a>, but two things about it make it unusable for my blogrolling purposes:  (1) I cannot make all entries private by default and just make certain folders public manualy and (2) when I click on <a href="http://www.bloglines.com/export" rel="nofollow">Export Subscriptions</a> I get a page that says:</p>
<p>
&#8220;XML Parsing Error: not well-formed<br />
Location: <a href="http://www.bloglines.com/export" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloglines.com/export</a></p>
<p>Line Number 219, Column 26:</p>
<p>    &#60;outline title=&#8221;RSS &#038; RDF News&#8221;&#62<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-^</p>
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		<title>By: dreww</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/rss_marches_onnet-based_aggregators.php#comment-25281</link>
		<dc:creator>dreww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason: The currently Mac OS X-based aggregator &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fondantfancies.com/shrook/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shrook&lt;/a&gt; has an interesting architecture that allows you to view your feeds through a web interface as well as the desktop application. Basically, your subscriptions are proxied through the web service, which reduces load on popular sites. You can also tell the reader to fetch from the site directly, if it&#039;s something that&#039;s frequently updated, on an intranet, etc. I&#039;ve heard rumors about clients for other operating systems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as the general case goes, I&#039;m currently using .Net-based app called SharpReader. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There basically aren&#039;t any decent aggregators for Linux. Straw is okay, but there are no cateogories or folders, and having a flat list of a hundred feeds becomes annoying. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems like all of the open source unix energy is now sunk into these massive projects, and the developers of tiny, innovative client software have all Switched.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think NewsMonster gets kind of a bad rap - it&#039;s very ambitious, and has a lot of potential. I&#039;m not sure wrapping mozilla around a bunch of java was the best decision from a performance standpoint, but it is very multiplatform. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason: The currently Mac OS X-based aggregator <a href="http://www.fondantfancies.com/shrook/" rel="nofollow">Shrook</a> has an interesting architecture that allows you to view your feeds through a web interface as well as the desktop application. Basically, your subscriptions are proxied through the web service, which reduces load on popular sites. You can also tell the reader to fetch from the site directly, if it&#8217;s something that&#8217;s frequently updated, on an intranet, etc. I&#8217;ve heard rumors about clients for other operating systems.</p>
<p>As far as the general case goes, I&#8217;m currently using .Net-based app called SharpReader. </p>
<p>There basically aren&#8217;t any decent aggregators for Linux. Straw is okay, but there are no cateogories or folders, and having a flat list of a hundred feeds becomes annoying. </p>
<p>It seems like all of the open source unix energy is now sunk into these massive projects, and the developers of tiny, innovative client software have all Switched.</p>
<p>I think NewsMonster gets kind of a bad rap &#8211; it&#8217;s very ambitious, and has a lot of potential. I&#8217;m not sure wrapping mozilla around a bunch of java was the best decision from a performance standpoint, but it is very multiplatform. </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Chanezon</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/rss_marches_onnet-based_aggregators.php#comment-25280</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Chanezon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Full comment at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chanezon.com/pat/weblog/archives/000118.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chanezon.com/pat/weblog/archives/000118.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;RSS readers are a fascinating area, and I think the right mix between client and server processing has not been found yet.&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s clearly some room for innovation left in this area.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I started with Radio, which has an integrated RSS reader as a local daemon, with the UI in the browser. I also tried AmphetaDesk, which is based on the same idea.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then I&#039;ve tried NewsMonster, a pure client side solution, with some projects to define a reputation system and collaborative filtering on the server side later. I found the ideas interesting, but the execution pretty poor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve tested blogstreet  who have an interesting idea for offline use: they ley you get your subscription via IMAP. If your IMAP client caches the mails, you have an offline RSS browser, while still being able to use the web UI if you&#039;re online.&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s the same idea on the server as Abe Fettig&#039;s Hep  on the client.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bloglines is pretty good for just the web stuff, but it lacks a solution for offline use, such as IMAP access in blogstreet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today I use NetNewsWire, a pure client side solution that works only on a mac.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full comment at <a href="http://www.chanezon.com/pat/weblog/archives/000118.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chanezon.com/pat/weblog/archives/000118.html</a></p>
<p>RSS readers are a fascinating area, and I think the right mix between client and server processing has not been found yet.<br />
There&#8217;s clearly some room for innovation left in this area.</p>
<p>I started with Radio, which has an integrated RSS reader as a local daemon, with the UI in the browser. I also tried AmphetaDesk, which is based on the same idea.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ve tried NewsMonster, a pure client side solution, with some projects to define a reputation system and collaborative filtering on the server side later. I found the ideas interesting, but the execution pretty poor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tested blogstreet  who have an interesting idea for offline use: they ley you get your subscription via IMAP. If your IMAP client caches the mails, you have an offline RSS browser, while still being able to use the web UI if you&#8217;re online.<br />
It&#8217;s the same idea on the server as Abe Fettig&#8217;s Hep  on the client.</p>
<p>Bloglines is pretty good for just the web stuff, but it lacks a solution for offline use, such as IMAP access in blogstreet.</p>
<p>Today I use NetNewsWire, a pure client side solution that works only on a mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/rss_marches_onnet-based_aggregators.php#comment-25279</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bloglines does have an easy way to subscribe to new feeds not in the directory. It&#039;s a bookmarklet, which is a piece of code that sits in your toolbar, along with other sites that you&#039;ve bookmarked. When you&#039;re visiting a site that has a feed that you&#039;d like to subscribe to, you simply click the bookmarklet, and you&#039;re subscribed. More information can be found here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloglines.com/help/easysub&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bloglines.com/help/easysub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know we need to make this easier to understand and more apparent to users. I hope this helps.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloglines does have an easy way to subscribe to new feeds not in the directory. It&#8217;s a bookmarklet, which is a piece of code that sits in your toolbar, along with other sites that you&#8217;ve bookmarked. When you&#8217;re visiting a site that has a feed that you&#8217;d like to subscribe to, you simply click the bookmarklet, and you&#8217;re subscribed. More information can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloglines.com/help/easysub" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloglines.com/help/easysub</a></p>
<p>I know we need to make this easier to understand and more apparent to users. I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: ron jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I use Bloglines and like it so far.&lt;br /&gt;
I wish there was a simple button that would&lt;br /&gt;
maximize the right panel while I am reading, &lt;br /&gt;
then resize it when I am ready to scan through&lt;br /&gt;
my list of RSS feeds.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also have not discovered how to easily&lt;br /&gt;
add new feeds that are not in the&lt;br /&gt;
Bloglines directory. that part needs to become&lt;br /&gt;
dead nuts simple.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Bloglines and like it so far.<br />
I wish there was a simple button that would<br />
maximize the right panel while I am reading, <br />
then resize it when I am ready to scan through<br />
my list of RSS feeds.</p>
<p>I also have not discovered how to easily<br />
add new feeds that are not in the<br />
Bloglines directory. that part needs to become<br />
dead nuts simple.
 </p>
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		<title>By: Jason McCabe Calacanis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason McCabe Calacanis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the RSS-clients work much better then the web-based solutions, clients like FeedReader and RSSReader are much, much faster.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course, it would be great if someone built a service that had worked as a client or on the web depending on your preference at the time (i.e. you&#039;re on the road at a public terminal or on someone else&#039;s desktop).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More at &lt;a href=&quot;http://rss.weblogsinc.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rss.weblogsinc.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the RSS-clients work much better then the web-based solutions, clients like FeedReader and RSSReader are much, much faster.</p>
<p>Of course, it would be great if someone built a service that had worked as a client or on the web depending on your preference at the time (i.e. you&#8217;re on the road at a public terminal or on someone else&#8217;s desktop).</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://rss.weblogsinc.com" rel="nofollow">http://rss.weblogsinc.com</a> </p>
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		<title>By: ABliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is also Kevin Burton&#039;s NewsMonster.  Its free, open source and it works on Mozilla.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.peerfear.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.peerfear.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also Kevin Burton&#8217;s NewsMonster.  Its free, open source and it works on Mozilla.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peerfear.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peerfear.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt McAlister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McAlister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bloglines is my personal favorite among myFeedster, Radio, NewsGator, NewsReader and FeedDemon and not just because it is web-based.  But there are new products coming out soon that will make this race much more interesting.  Anyone remember the headline, &quot;Browser Wars&quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
There should be an interesting webinar on this topic called &lt;a&gt;RSS Winterfest&lt;/a&gt; with some great speakers, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave Winer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Anil Dash&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jon Udell&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bill French&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robert Scoble&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Scott Johnson&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Greg Reinacker&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chris Pirillo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s the &lt;a&gt;press release&lt;/a&gt; about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloglines is my personal favorite among myFeedster, Radio, NewsGator, NewsReader and FeedDemon and not just because it is web-based.  But there are new products coming out soon that will make this race much more interesting.  Anyone remember the headline, &#8220;Browser Wars&#8221;?
</p>
<p>
There should be an interesting webinar on this topic called <a>RSS Winterfest</a> with some great speakers, including:</p>
<ul></p>
<li>Dave Winer
</li>
<li>Anil Dash
</li>
<li>Jon Udell
</li>
<li>Bill French
</li>
<li>Robert Scoble
</li>
<li>Scott Johnson
</li>
<li>Greg Reinacker
</li>
<li>Chris Pirillo
</li>
</ul>
<p>
Here&#8217;s the <a>press release</a> about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Before I used Bloglones, I started out with NewsMonster.  Although it was a compiled app that ran in my browser, it was incredibly slow and buggy.  I tried out many different aggregators after that, but none of them had the features that I needed, except Bloglines.  I&#039;ve been a very happy user of Bloglines.  My only worry is that someday it might not be online.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I used Bloglones, I started out with NewsMonster.  Although it was a compiled app that ran in my browser, it was incredibly slow and buggy.  I tried out many different aggregators after that, but none of them had the features that I needed, except Bloglines.  I&#8217;ve been a very happy user of Bloglines.  My only worry is that someday it might not be online.</p>
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