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	<title>Comments on: Grokking Groxis&apos; Grokker</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. Peter Palms</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/grokking_groxis_grokker.php#comment-25332</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Peter Palms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I want to buy Grokker, robot spider or crawler that will&lt;br /&gt;
datamine internet WWW sites for all the trade boards such as&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alibaba.com&lt;br /&gt;
chinalocator.com&lt;br /&gt;
businesfinder.comebigchina.com&lt;br /&gt;
china_excite.com&lt;br /&gt;
ec21.com&lt;br /&gt;
euro-trade.net&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An estimated 20,000 such sites exist on the WWW&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The spider should also automatically register/enroll/list &lt;br /&gt;
a company at each of the trade boards with, name, address, &lt;br /&gt;
tel, fax, email, URL, by product category and its products &lt;br /&gt;
together with graphic files at each trade board&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;if you have such software available I also want to&lt;br /&gt;
partner in the sale of an estimated 1000 copies&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dr. Peter Palms PhD&lt;br /&gt;
Palms &amp; Company, Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
Palms Harbour Lights Building, Suite 203&lt;br /&gt;
515lake Street South&lt;br /&gt;
Kirkland (seattle), Washington State USA 98033&lt;br /&gt;
Tel 1 425 828 6774&lt;br /&gt;
Fax 1 425 827 5528&lt;br /&gt;
Email: Grokker@Peterpalms.com&lt;br /&gt;
WWW: Peterpalms.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to buy Grokker, robot spider or crawler that will<br />
datamine internet WWW sites for all the trade boards such as</p>
<p>Alibaba.com<br />
chinalocator.com<br />
businesfinder.comebigchina.com<br />
china_excite.com<br />
ec21.com<br />
euro-trade.net</p>
<p>An estimated 20,000 such sites exist on the WWW</p>
<p>The spider should also automatically register/enroll/list <br />
a company at each of the trade boards with, name, address, <br />
tel, fax, email, URL, by product category and its products <br />
together with graphic files at each trade board</p>
<p>if you have such software available I also want to<br />
partner in the sale of an estimated 1000 copies</p>
<p>Dr. Peter Palms PhD<br />
Palms &#038; Company, Inc.<br />
Palms Harbour Lights Building, Suite 203<br />
515lake Street South<br />
Kirkland (seattle), Washington State USA 98033<br />
Tel 1 425 828 6774<br />
Fax 1 425 827 5528<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:Grokker@Peterpalms.com">Grokker@Peterpalms.com</a><br />
WWW: Peterpalms.com</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Mayfield</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/grokking_groxis_grokker.php#comment-25331</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Mayfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Its a GREAT product&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a GREAT product</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://battellemedia.com/archives/2003/12/grokking_groxis_grokker.php#comment-25330</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This sound interesting, but I&#039;ve always had a difficult time with graphical interfaces to data sets. We researched/played around with a number of these types of programs at Wired (Steve Steinberg was always interested in this topic).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Toward &#039;mapping the Web&#039;, Xerox built a wheel-spoke interface several years ago, I think Apple and/or Macromedia did a 3D browser also. Early stuff - very creaky.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As with any map, they all introduced significant overhead for the user, the ability to interpret symbols and spacial relationships through a window on a computer screen is not that easy. And many of them inadvertantly would obscure their own text labels, which in my opinion is an automatic failing grade.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I always thought that what made Google so great is that its filtering algorithms obviated the need for &quot;exploring&quot; the data set. But I can certainly see the need to see a little further over your search&#039;s event horizon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In general, I&#039;m a massive fan of public API&#039;s -- google, amazon, UPS, USPS all have created excellent tools that create huge strides in what web programmers can do (easily). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d also like to see more work on building Web apps that improved my ability to customize my results, as well as see statistics about those results. But fancy visual interfaces just get in the way, IMHO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[Groxis: Why not a Web-based app?]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sound interesting, but I&#8217;ve always had a difficult time with graphical interfaces to data sets. We researched/played around with a number of these types of programs at Wired (Steve Steinberg was always interested in this topic).</p>
<p>Toward &#8216;mapping the Web&#8217;, Xerox built a wheel-spoke interface several years ago, I think Apple and/or Macromedia did a 3D browser also. Early stuff &#8211; very creaky.</p>
<p>As with any map, they all introduced significant overhead for the user, the ability to interpret symbols and spacial relationships through a window on a computer screen is not that easy. And many of them inadvertantly would obscure their own text labels, which in my opinion is an automatic failing grade.</p>
<p>I always thought that what made Google so great is that its filtering algorithms obviated the need for &#8220;exploring&#8221; the data set. But I can certainly see the need to see a little further over your search&#8217;s event horizon.</p>
<p>In general, I&#8217;m a massive fan of public API&#8217;s &#8212; google, amazon, UPS, USPS all have created excellent tools that create huge strides in what web programmers can do (easily). </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to see more work on building Web apps that improved my ability to customize my results, as well as see statistics about those results. But fancy visual interfaces just get in the way, IMHO.</p>
<p>[Groxis: Why not a Web-based app?]</p>
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